In my inbox two minutes ago:

Hi All,

Today I like you to help guide me in making a decision as to which puzzle I should release first
a 7x7x7 cube or a 6x6x6 cube? It must be 1 choice only. If the price is around $60 would
you still order them and how many?

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Uwe

It's difficult to say, but I think I would rather have a 7x7x7. I've solved both of them a lot (as computer cubes) and I enjoy the 7x7x7 more, even though you can simulate a ton of interesting cuboids on the 6x6x6.

Well, whichever it is, I will definitely buy one almost immediately, and it's likely that I'll eventually buy another one.

What I find most interesting is an indication as to the price range.
20 years ago I wouldn't have been able to afford one of these, today I'm lucky to offer myself some sets.

7x7 :) Mainly because it is more complex, both mechanically, and in a puzzling sense. Its slightly feasible to try a DIY 6x6 (which I will be trying later), but a 7x7 is almost out of the question. Even trying to design one is a headache.

Thanks for those wonderful news Georges.

Well, both cubes are magnificent. I would choose both, but if I was forced to choose only one, I would go first for the 6x6x6 which would be a natural progression.

When I start learning how to solve nxnxn puzzles, I first solved a 3x3x3, then a 4x4x4, and then a 5x5x5. So for them moment, 6x6x6 would get my vote. But as stated, I would prefer both!

A 6x6x6 with supercube stickers would also be good.




Pantazis

Personally, I would prefer the 7x7 since it is a larger puzzle, and larger is harder to make. And the bigger it is, the more fun it is to solve it in from of people. And how can I join the Meffert's mailing list or whatever you joined to receive that email? Because I would like to be able to purchase a cube before they sell out.

I'd buy *three* 7x7 and one 6x6 at that price. But if I had to choose. probably go with the 7x7 because I prefer odd order cubes. Hence if the question would have been between 7x7 and a hypothetical 8x8, I'd still choose 7x7.

I'm so much faster on odd order cubes...

But if the rarity of the 7x7 will be good enough, then I'd probably buy more to keep in my collection. Well it also depends heavily on how well they would turn. Or perhaps they will partner with OC people?

Wonderful news! I would buy either, but if I had to choose between the two, I'd go for a 7x7x7. Bigger is better, neh?

Forgive me, I forgot to mention how many of those cubes I would buy.

Judging from the prices above, and regardless the release date(s), I would go for at least two 6x6x6 cubes (maybe one with a cube shape and one with a pillow shape) and at least two 7x7x7 cubes, depending on my financial status at that time.




Pantazis

You should send a short email to Uwe (News at mefferts dot com) stating 6x6 or 7x7 plus how many you would eventually buy.

I'd like the 6x6x6 for the natural progression, and I like the cubes without a center cubie. I'd get at least two right off the bat. I would never complain about the 7x7x7 though, and I'd get two right off the bat as well. I am very happy to see someone is checking into getting this going, especially someone like Meffert.

I would prefer the 7x7 cube for a couple of reasons. From what I hear from some of the top cubers, the mechanism for the 7x7 is a little bit nicer than the 6x6. I also like odd cubes more, as I am mainly a 5x5er. As to the progression of cubes, I don't think that there is really any difference between the 6x6 and 7x7 other than the parity issue. Edges are all the same no matter what size and the centers are both still equally complex. As to the price, $60 seems to be a reasonable price, but I would think that maybe low $50s may be possible. I would gladly pay $60 for a 7x7, but I think that each cube lower would have to have less of a price.

I'd prefer a 6x6 just to follow the order. I Plan on buying two of everything mefferts releases.

Big reminder, for those of you who do put in a pre-order, make sure you'll be able to back it up when they do come out. I'm guessing Uwe's not looking for "Well, I'll eventually buy 2 when I have the money. lol".

very true. This forum always seemed to be a place of trust, and now it seems to be turning into a less trusting place. Mr. Twisty learned that with his last Studio order, and I stepped in to get some of the unpaid puzzles. I think if anyone makes these new puzzles we should thank them by NOT stiffing them on orders, and keep this forum honest. We should be thankful Someone like Meffert is curious about our interest.

I'd even be willing to pre-pay, assuming the cubes were promised by a certain date.

Chris

I'd prepay also.

I would purchase (1) 7x7 at that price.

I would prefer a 7x7x7, even though I would not complain if the 6x6x6 would be the first to be released.

I would love to have dozens, but at that price I would buy one of each, or maybe a second 7x7x7.

2008 is going to be a fantastic year for us puzzlers.

Q

I wanted to reply to the email, but I honestly wouldn't be able to decide which one I'd want most. I'd be happy just to have either one!

How many I buy I guess would depend on how fragile they are. I'd like want more than one to use as parts if there's a chance of breakage.

Whose design are these?

As much as I hate Even Cubes, I'd still take the 6x6. Not because of natural progression, but because of how many ways you can restrict your moves to simulate other cuboids and bandaged puzzles.

Email sent.
A 7x7x7 for sure, but a 6x6x6 would be just as nice. We'll start with 2.
I think Uwe should get prepaid if he commits to a release date.
Can't wait to hear when he plans to release them.

WOW! This is Halloween right? Not April Fool's Day?

NICE NEWS !!!

I would prefer the 7x7x7, for the same reasons then all the others

Does anyone know if these are Olympic cubes or a new Meffert Design?

Regardless, I would go with the 7x7x7. It is larger. The OC design is slightly rounded. I am curious if this is the same cube Mefferts would sell or a different design?

Thanks Uwe. I would get one of anything you sell anyways.

man what are you talking about, I would pay 100$ for a puzzle like this !

I cant pay $100, or $70, or really even the $60 that mefferts is proposing, and im sure im not alone.
lower price=more cubes sold to more people.

Lower price = Lower revenue

And that lower revenue might not cover total cost.

AP Economics ftl.

But he still has to make the price high enough so he can make some sort of profit.

Sorry, Noah, you're a couple seconds late on that one.

I would like the 7x7x7 to be released first, as I don't like even cubes(The main reason is that I couldn't solve one lol), I think $60 is a fair price

BTW I signed the newsletter only after seeing this thread so I couldn't send a reply to Meffert's

Why is solving the 6x6x6 harder than a 7x7x7? The 6x6x6 is contained in it!

So are you saying you can't solve a 2x2x2?

I'm not saying it's harder, i just don't like fixing the parities in the middle of the 3x3x3 part and odd cubes have stationary centre pieces as reference

(bah, the main reason is that I'm too lazy to memorizing the parity algs and colour schemes )

Somewhat off-topic: my wife has more problems solving a 2x2x2 than solving a 3x3x3, because she has difficulties not having fixed centers.

That's my biggest problem with even cubes as well, and this is partially my fault. I never learned the 'official' OLL fix. I came up with my own, where I place the PLL parity on the puzzle, so the two corners next to the flipped edge are swapped and oriented correctly, so it looks like that whole column of pieces has been swapped, then I solve it from there like a domino.

I don't think either puzzle is harder than the other. My experience with the computer cubes, is that once I get past the 5x5, my method is exactly the same. The only difference is knowing the parity fixes. I think anyone who is going to be able to solve a big, big cube relatively quickly already knows these, and has no problem. I just would rather have a 7x7 first because I like them bigger. It's more of a shock factor for people.

Wow, this thread got off topic quick!

Anyway, I emailed Uwe... I preferred the 7x7x7 - but I would buy either one. I said I would sign up for 4 of them.

Thanks for the heads up Georges!

Speaking of off-topic: I just learned some colloquial American English - heads up.
This learn feature is something I appreciate while reading and writing here.

That's two now from me...

Anytime I can help you with our slang, don't hesitate to ask, Georges!

FINALLY! Anyway, I would rather have the 6x6 come out first just because I like things in chronological order. Either way Im gonna get both! Oh and these are gonna be the actual olympic cubes, right? Also whats the price? I go to Meffert's News and the latest thing is the Impossiball.

Don't forget commutators for finishing the last two centers when doing reduction.

Unfortunately, I have zero demand for this product at this price, at least until they are competition events.

WHats the price? And Im on the mailing list but I got no email!

Q

I'm on the mailing list too, but I didn't get an email. So - hey at least we got this update from Georges.

Thanks! I cant believe I read through this lie 5 times and couldnt find it lol.

Hmmm, didn't read Pantazis post huh?

I got the email twice: at 7.35 and 8.43 GMT+1.
So whose email did I get? reeeech's, sirajali05's, ... ?

Yeah thanks for the update Georges. And reeeech, what about Pantazis post? Lol Im not in the zone today....

I'm not doubting you. I also can accept, because who you are, that you can get these special emails, all on your own. Like I said, I'm happy that you update all of us - even if Uwe's email didn't get to everyone.

Also -

So - yes, not all of us got it!

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Read this.

And it's reeeech - 4 e's! Thanks.

My post was about SPELLING.

1. My name starts with CAPITAL "P".
2. It is PANTAZIS, not PANTASIZ.

I mean, are you typlexic or something? (what I am saying, you don't even read the posts LOL). Now, if you can't type my name correctly, please don't use it at all. Seriously. In my island, spelling someone's name wrongly is punishable with castration and can start a vendetta that any mafia (Italian, Russian) wouldn't dare to challenge.




Pantazis

I received Uwe's email twice also. Can't wait to see new puzzles for sale on his site.