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Noah
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Post subject: Shapes and Mechanisms: Concepts and Creations. Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:49 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am Location: Eastern Michigan University (Minnesota at heart)
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I made a short list of some common puzzle mechanisms, and a short list of some common puzzle mod shapes. I then went through the database and thread archives. (Yay search functions.) I made this list over the course of an hour and a half, so I'm sure there's errors. So please post, and I'll correct them. The point of this is not to catalog puzzle, we already have plenty of those (up to date or not), but hopefully to inspire people to make new mods. For example, I haven't seen a cubic version of the pyraminx. I know there are shapes I didn't list, as well as puzzles with different mechanisms I didn't list. This was just a short little project I came up with while not paying attention in Statistics. For some of the links, I know other people have made the puzzle before. I ended up just choosing one and moving on. I hope no one has a problem with that. Cheers, Noah ---------------------------------------------------------------- 2x2x2-Sphere K-Ball-Tetrahedron Pyramorphix-Pillowed Tetrahedron Not Yet Made-Cube Junior Cube-Octahedron Okki/Gem-Dodecahedron Dodecahedron 2x2x2-Rhombic Dodecahedron Rhombic Dodecahedron 2x2x2-Icosahedron Icosahedron 2x2x2-Cylinder Tonne-Cuboctahedron Friki Cube-Half Truncated Half Truncated 2x23x3x3-Sphere 3x3x3 Sphere-Tetrahedron Mastermorphix-Pillowed Tetrahedron Pillowed Mastermorphix-Cube Rubik's Cube-Octahedron Trajber's Octohedron-Dodecahedron 3x3x3 Dodecahedron-Rhombic Dodecahedron 3x3x3 Rhombic Dodecahedron-Icosahedron 3x3x3 Icosahedron-Cylinder 3x3x3 Cylinder-Cuboctahedron Cuboctahedron-Half Truncated Half Truncated 3x3x34x4x4-Sphere 4x4x4 Ball-Tetrahedron Megamorphix-Pillowed Tetrahedron Not Yet Made-Cube Rubik's Revenge-Octahedron Master Trajber's Octahedron-Dodecahedron 4x4x4 Dodecahedron-Rhombic Dodecahedron Not Yet Made-Icosahedron Not Yet Made-Cylinder 4x4x4 Cylinder-Cuboctahedron Master Cube Octahedron-Half Truncated Not Yet Made5x5x5-Sphere Not Yet Made-Tetrahedron Not Yet Made-Pillowed Tetrahedron Not Yet Made-Cube Professor Cube-Octahedron Professor Trajber's Octahedron (In Progress) -Dodecahedron Not Yet Made-Rhombic Dodecahedron 5x5x5 Rhombic Dodecahedron-Icosahedron Not Yet Made-Cylinder 5x5x5 Cylinder-Cuboctahedron Professor Cuboctahedron-Half Truncated Not Yet MadeSkewb-Sphere Puzzle Ball-Tetrahedron Halpern-Meier Tetrahedron-Pillowed Tetrahedron Not Yet Made-Cube Skewb-Octahedron Skewb Diamond-Dodecahedron Skewb Ultimate-Rhombic Dodecahedron Fisher's Rhombic Dodecahedron-Icosahedron Fisher's Icosahedron-Cylinder Not Yet Made-Cuboctahedron Mama Skewb-Half Truncated ParaskewbPyraminx-Sphere Not Yet Made-Tetrahedron Pyraminx-Pillowed Tetrahedron Not Yet Made-Cube Cubominx-Octahedron Octaminx-Dodecahedron Not Yet Made-Rhombic Dodecahedron Not Yet Made-Icosahedron Pyricosaminx-Cylinder Not Yet Made-Cuboctahedron Not Yet Made-Half Truncated Not Yet MadeSquare-1-Sphere Sphere-1-Tetrahedron Greenhill's Tetrahedron-Pillowed Tetrahedron Danger Cube-Cube Square-1-Octahedron Not Yet Made-Dodecahedron Greenhill's Dodecahedron-Rhombic Dodecahedron Not Yet Made-Icosahedron Not Yet Made-Cylinder Cylinder-1-Cuboctahedron Not Yet Made-Half Truncated MarvinMegaminx-Sphere Megaminx Ball-Tetrahedron Not Yet Made-Pillowed Tetrahedron Pyramid Scheme-Cube Hexaminx-Octahedron Not Yet Made-Dodecahedron Megaminx-Rhombic Dodecahedron Not Yet Made-Icosahedron Icosaminx-Cylinder Not Yet Made-Cuboctahedron Not Yet Made-Half Truncated Not Yet Made
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Last edited by Noah on Fri May 02, 2008 12:49 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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kastellorizo
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:01 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:31 am Location: Greece, Australia, Thailand, Singapore.
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Thomas
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Post subject: Re: Shapes and Mechanisms: Concepts and Creations. Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:19 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:34 pm Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Siraj A.
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Post subject: Re: Shapes and Mechanisms: Concepts and Creations. Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:27 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:14 pm Location: VA, USA
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Thomas wrote: Noah wrote: For example, I haven't seen a cubic version of the pyraminx. Isn't the Offset Skewb a kind of cubic Pyraminx? Thomas
Well didnt the Skewb used o be called the "Pyraminx Cube" or something like that?
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Jesse Werner
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:37 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:02 pm Location: San Diego, CA
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kastellorizo wrote: Nice list indeed. I am also planning to make some list with all types of different folding magic puzzles, i.e. even if they have same number of tiles, their mechanism can be completely different. The one I did some time ago *still* does not cover everything!!!  Pantazis
Don't forget me!
viewtopic.php?t=7571&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=jesse+architecture+magic
I know its just another 6-tile magic, but i'm still proud of it.
I also just finished stringing a 12 tile magic, so after i see how it moves for a while, i may put some new design into the puzzle
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VeryWetPaint
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:03 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:11 am Location: Oregon, USA
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Thomas wrote: Noah wrote: For example, I haven't seen a cubic version of the pyraminx. Isn't the Offset Skewb a kind of cubic Pyraminx? Thomas
Not quite because the Offset Skewb doesn't differ schematically from an ordinary skewb. It solves exactly the same, in fact. In order to be a cubic Pyraminx four of the corner pieces would have to shrink to nothing. This could be constructed easily enough.
But you're right, there's a close relationship. It's been previously discussed that all Skewbs (Cube, Diamond, and Ultimate) are closely related to Pyraminx because they're all based on the same 4-arm spider concept, and they all have four axes with three positions each.
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reeeech
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:07 pm |
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Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:19 pm
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VeryWetPaint wrote: But you're right, there's a close relationship. It's been previously discussed that all Skewbs (Cube, Diamond, and Ultimate) are closely related to Pyraminx because they're all based on the same 4-arm spider concept, and they all have four axes with three positions each.
I guess this could easily be seen in the Master Pyraminx - which is made from a skewb. 
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Darren Grewe
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Post subject: Re: Shapes and Mechanisms: Concepts and Creations. Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:45 pm |
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Joined: Sat Apr 22, 2000 2:51 am Location: New Ulm, Minnesota, USA
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Noah wrote: I -Dodecahedron Couldn't find link. I saw the construction documentation pictures on a different website. I believe it was in a different language. You didn't use the right search function. Get with the program. I'm just joking I could never holler at someone. http://twistypuzzles.com/articles/http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~wq6h-tkj/bb ... inal_e.htm[/quote]
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:22 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am Location: Eastern Michigan University (Minnesota at heart)
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Thanks Darren! I knew I wasn't going crazy. I totally forgot it was linked in the articles section.
_________________ Fridrich 3x3 PB 22.63 3x3 Av 30.57
20, Male Started cubing Oct 15 '05
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:17 am |
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Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am Location: Eastern Michigan University (Minnesota at heart)
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Anyways, here is a list of mods that this list helped come up with.
2x2x2 Pillowed Tetrahedron
2x2x2 Cuboctahedron
4x4x4 Pillowed Tetrahedron
4x4x4 Rhombic Dodecahedron
4x4x4 Icosahedron
4x4x4 Half Truncated
5x5x5 Sphere/ball
5x5x5 Tetrahedron (Professormorphix)
5x5x5 Dodecahedron
5x5x5 Icosahedron
5x5x5 Half Truncated
Skewb Pillowed Tetrahedron.
Skewb Cylinder
Pyraminx Sphere
Pillowed Pyraminx
Cubical Pyraminx
Pyraminx Dodecahedron
Pyraminx Rhombic Dodecahedron
Pyraminx Cylinder
Pyraminx Cuboctahedron
Pyraminx Half Truncated
Square-1 Octagon (Trajbers-1)
Square-1 Cubeoctahedron
And I wont even bother with the megaminx mods. We've already come very far with just the Hexaminx.
There are several mods from the list I would love to see.
5x5x5 Ball
Skewb Cylinder
Pyraminx Sphere
Pyraminx Cylinder
Trajbers-1
_________________ Fridrich 3x3 PB 22.63 3x3 Av 30.57
20, Male Started cubing Oct 15 '05
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Thomas
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:28 am |
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Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:34 pm Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:24 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am Location: Eastern Michigan University (Minnesota at heart)
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Thomas wrote: Noah wrote: Skewb Cylinder Has been done. See Scott Bedard's Mental Puck. Thomas It techinically is, but I was thinking of something close to the attached picture.
To me, the mental puck would be related to a skewb cylinder the same way a case cube is related to a fisher cube.
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_________________ Fridrich 3x3 PB 22.63 3x3 Av 30.57
20, Male Started cubing Oct 15 '05
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qqwref
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:31 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:12 pm Location: NY, USA
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The 5x5x5 ball would be pretty easy, especially if you made it from an Eastsheen. Interestingly, you could make any NxNxN ball with an Eastsheen mechanism, because you wouldn't have any problems with corners... I'd totally like to see a 7x7x7 ball, or maybe make one, at some point...
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VeryWetPaint
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:35 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:11 am Location: Oregon, USA
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Sadly I must recant my earlier suggestion about building a cubic pyraminx.
Upon analyzing the planes of the cuts I'm forced to conclude a cubic pyraminx is not possible, at least not while remaining strictly in the Pyraminx family. You could build a half-truncated cube, which is virtually a Skewb minus four corners.
Adding four pieces for the corners would transform the puzzle from the Pyraminx family to the Skewb family. That's possibly how the Pyraminx Cube / Skewb was invented.
Still, it might be fun to transform an Offset Skewb into a more Pyraminx-like puzzle by adding trivially-turning tips to the four larger corners.
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Siraj A.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:41 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:14 pm Location: VA, USA
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Instead of a cubic pyraminx, build a Pyramid Cube. You cut sand and cut a 3x3 so it would be a truncated pyramis, and then extend it. Also you use that cocept but you can make a frustum too. FRUSTUM!
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Sam
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:54 pm |
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sirajali05 wrote: Instead of a cubic pyraminx, build a Pyramid Cube. You cut sand and cut a 3x3 so it would be a truncated pyramis, and then extend it. Also you use that cocept but you can make a frustum too. FRUSTUM!
Are you talking about what volker and the.drizzle have both made? i cant find it right now but the.drizzle also made one out of a square-1 and something else, its like the danger cube.
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Siraj A.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:03 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:14 pm Location: VA, USA
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I didnt know its been made. And youre talking abouta frustum?(A truncated Cone)
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:47 am |
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While talking to Jake Rueth at the Minnesota Open, we were discussing this thread and he pointed out something very interesting.
The Pyracue is in fact based on a Pyraminx and is in the shape of a cube.
http://puzzle3d.hp.infoseek.co.jp/pyracue.html
_________________ Fridrich 3x3 PB 22.63 3x3 Av 30.57
20, Male Started cubing Oct 15 '05
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Swordsman Kirby
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:00 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:00 am Location: Shanghai, China
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A pyraminx made into a cube:
Skewb
At least that's what the mechanisms say.
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:16 am |
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Swordsman Kirby wrote: A pyraminx made into a cube:
Skewb
At least that's what the mechanisms say. But the skewb adds 4 floating corners, that's why I consider it different, in that sense at least.
_________________ Fridrich 3x3 PB 22.63 3x3 Av 30.57
20, Male Started cubing Oct 15 '05
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Thomas
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:52 pm |
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I wrote: Noah wrote: For example, I haven't seen a cubic version of the pyraminx. Isn't the Offset Skewb a kind of cubic Pyraminx? Thomas Noah wrote: While talking to Jake Rueth at the Minnesota Open, we were discussing this thread and he pointed out something very interesting. The Pyracue is in fact based on a Pyraminx and is in the shape of a cube. http://puzzle3d.hp.infoseek.co.jp/pyracue.html
I believe the Pyracue is based on the Offset Skewb mechanism. They both have the same number of pieces as a Skewb (4 more than the Pyraminx), but the dimensions (not of the pieces, but of the cutting planes - does that make sense?) are more like the Pyraminx. That's why I said the Offset Skewb (and indeed also the Pyracue) are a kind of cubic Pyraminx.
Thomas
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:36 pm |
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Upon further examination, the Pyracue is indeed a Skewb (4 floating corners) mechanism.
I didn't realize the small equilateral triangles were not connected to the narrower rectangles.
_________________ Fridrich 3x3 PB 22.63 3x3 Av 30.57
20, Male Started cubing Oct 15 '05
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Tony Fisher
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:42 pm |
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VeryWetPaint wrote: Sadly I must recant my earlier suggestion about building a cubic pyraminx. Upon analyzing the planes of the cuts I'm forced to conclude a cubic pyraminx is not possible
Don't be sad VeryWetPaint. Here's one I made years ago. I called it Cubominx. Dieter Gebhardt went on to write about it in CFF.
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Aleksey
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:13 pm |
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Thomas wrote: I believe the Pyracue is based on the Offset Skewb mechanism. They both have the same number of pieces as a Skewb (4 more than the Pyraminx), but the dimensions (not of the pieces, but of the cutting planes - does that make sense?) are more like the Pyraminx. That's why I said the Offset Skewb (and indeed also the Pyracue) are a kind of cubic Pyraminx.
In my view (and it had been since I first saw it) that Pyracue is essentially a Mental Block that is based on Offset Skewb.
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Thomas
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:50 am |
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Tony Fisher wrote: Don't be sad VeryWetPaint. Here's one I made years ago. I called it Cubominx. Dieter Gebhardt went on to write about it in CFF. Oh wow. How come I've never seen that before? I indeed found it just now in the CFF index on cff.helm.lu. Aleksey wrote: In my view (and it had been since I first saw it) that Pyracue is essentially a Mental Block that is based on Offset Skewb.
A Mental Block? That's an interesting approach. A very truncated one then. But would you still call that a Mental Block?
It's just a sketch, but wouldn't an Offset Mental Block look like this?
Thomas

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VeryWetPaint
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:28 am |
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Tony Fisher wrote: VeryWetPaint wrote: Sadly I must recant my earlier suggestion about building a cubic pyraminx. Upon analyzing the planes of the cuts I'm forced to conclude a cubic pyraminx is not possible Don't be sad VeryWetPaint. Here's one I made years ago. I called it Cubominx. Dieter Gebhardt went on to write about it in CFF.
Sure enough! The hollow corners are an excellent alternative to truncated corners. I was stuck on solids.
I like your solution, but I still want to build it with four trivially-turning tips just to complete the "Pyraminx" aspect of it. (Not that I've got enough building experience.) Then I might be able to build pretty patterns on it!
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Noah
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Post subject: Re: Shapes and Mechanisms: Concepts and Creations. Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:51 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am Location: Eastern Michigan University (Minnesota at heart)
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I have updated this thread.
I've fixed a handful of errors, added the new Pillowed Megaminx and finally found the 2x2 Cuboctahedron.
_________________ Fridrich 3x3 PB 22.63 3x3 Av 30.57
20, Male Started cubing Oct 15 '05
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Terry
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Post subject: Re: Shapes and Mechanisms: Concepts and Creations. Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:11 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:59 pm Location: Mantua, Ohio
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I would like to see a thread with actual pictures of mechanisms for certain puzzles.
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Chino
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Post subject: Re: Shapes and Mechanisms: Concepts and Creations. Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:20 pm |
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Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:42 pm Location: A Coruña - Spain
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