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 Post subject: Fully Functional 9 x 9 x 9 Cube (HOAX)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:00 pm 
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THIS POST IS A HOAX

This is my 500th post and to celebrate the occasion I am releasing details of my new puzzle. It is by far the most complex project I have ever worked on and took around four years and nearly 8000 GBP to complete. To be honest I never actually made any of it myself. The design is entirely mine but I employed a UK company to convert my drawings and models into Pro Engineering plans and then into the actual pieces. Thanks to those people on this forum (including Cubesmith for the stickers) who also helped me. It has been very difficult for me to keep it secret but I wasn’t sure until recently whether it would get completed or actually work. Although I am not releasing details of how exactly it was made I can give you a rough idea. To solve the obvious "Why don't the corners (and other pieces) fall off when the puzzle is turned”? problem, I came up with what I am told is a completely new concept. I have called it "clip and slide". When the puzzle is in it's normal cube state the corners are clipped (fixed) in place in all three dimensions (that's the theory although due to minor inaccuracies often only two are attached). When a force is applied in any direction (like at the beginning of a move) the corner unclips in that direction to allow movement. Since there is no force in the other directions/dimensions the piece stays securely attached. The process is achieved purely by mechanics. No magnets or electricity is used. The reason I chose to make a 9x9x9 is, firstly my design works better for odd numbers as the centre holds the whole thing together better and secondly I rejected the 7x7x7 because I figured some version of it would be made before my lengthy project was completed. A 9x9x9 therefore seemed the most obvious cube to make. Although I have looked into it I shall not be making anymore. It is far too expensive for me to produce puzzles this way since there are so many different part types plus I wouldn’t be making enough puzzles to get a significantly reduced rate. So, I shall carry on as normal with plastic sheet and resin making far less exciting puzzles. Quality wise it is quite good. It feels like a stiff Eastsheen 5x5x5 but I think it will loosen with time. One of the pictures shows it with an Eastsheen puzzle. You can see that it has slightly smaller cubies.
I definitely won't be selling this puzzle but anyone attending this years Dutch Cube Day will be able to see it.
I am going away in just a few hours but wanted to post this first. Unfortunately the video hasn’t yet been cleared by Google but hopefully it will be shortly. I may be able to get to an Internet café while I am away and if the video has cleared I’ll post the link. Otherwise I’ll post it on Monday when I return along with some more photos and answers to any questions.


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HOLY CRAP

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That's incredible!

And you even have blue opposite white :)


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we need video!

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Tony, is not April 1st yet, didn't you notice?

Stop. You mean it's for real, right? I second that: holy crap! It just can't be yet it is! :shock:

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I love your 9x9x9 cube!!!!!!!!!! The reason why is because its 9x9x9 cube du'H, all 81 squares plus no retangles at all and in cube form. Now you should do something in a Megaminx this size.


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I'm amazed, great job Tony!


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that is the most beautiful work of art I have ever seen. congradulations!!!!!!

I wish I had more words to describe how I feel, but they simply don't exist. You're a magician, tony!

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Oh my God. What else can be said, Tony, but that you are truly the master. Oh what I wouldn't give to be able to travel over the ocean and attend one of the cube days to see this cube and your other creations! My one question here is, do you think that the mechanism you have devised would work for bigger odd cubes, i.e. 13x13x13, 15x15x15, etc.?

Amazing work, truly. Wow. Thank you for sharing with us.


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Tony, you are truly a genius at puzzle building. I always knew you could make amazing puzzles from existing cores, but I grossly underestimated your ability to make completely new puzzles until now.

Also, have you solved it yet? if so how long did it take. Lets also see if Hardwick is up for a new BLD challenge :)

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Wow. Words can't describe how amazing that is.

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over $15,500 Is defiantly worth it lol. Tony amazing job i give you a high five for that one. So will we see a 2nd???

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The thing I like seeing most, even more than new puzzles, is new ideas, and ways of making the "impossible" puzzles become reality. Tony Fisher is certainly a visionary in the field of puzzles, and I am absolutely amazed by this new puzzle.

Thank you for sharing, Tony.

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The mechanics of the thing sound interesting. What happens if you turn a single slice 45 degrees and push down on it? Would the piece fall out?

Either way, it's incredible.


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Tony this is amazing! I never thought that this would have ever happened. if i take a loan out now for $20,000 to buy one i will have it paid off in about 5 years. to me its not worth it. but i would love to see them available one day to the rich and famous.


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great job as usual....man 15k on a single cube.....i would rather get a car or something. man, GREAT JOB. not to be a pessimist or anything but it would totally suk, if a niece or nephew came along, took it, and dropped it on the conrete or tile florring...

so tony, have you hired security guards to keep a good watch over it while you sleep.....or do you sleep at all? :lol: :lol: or do you stay a wake 24/7 just thinking of new ideas and puzzles to make our puzzle mods look horrible.. tony, you won, you won ever since....ever....i kinda don't like it in the mud anymore :lol: :lol: (J/K tony, keep up the great work. luv you masterpieces..especially a $15k one..)

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Excellent job Tony on your completed 9x9x9.
Now you need to contact Mefferts and maybe we can play with your 9x9x9 earlier than with Olympicubes. 8-) 8-) 8-)


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Adam Zamora wrote:
Tony this is amazing! I never thought that this would have ever happened. if i take a loan out now for $20,000 to buy one i will have it paid off in about 5 years. to me its not worth it. but i would love to see them available one day to the rich and famous.


Time to play the lottery or/and get a real job for me. How stable is it? Would anybody disagree that this would win the puzzle of the year award that we have at the end of each year even if its very early in the year? No offence to all of the other great puzzle builders that we have out there that are going to make puzzles this year also. :oops:


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WOW!...that's all I can say. :D :D

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Tony, could you live off of puzzle making? Have you ever tried it for a period of time?

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*speechless*


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Amid the applause of the crowd, this is amazing, Tony! The idea of the mechanism that made it possible while keeping the cubies square, is indeed a stroke of genius.


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TBTTyler wrote:
*speechless*


My thoughts exactly...








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Oh my Tony, I mean Oh my God. That was like a dream, but then I realized I was still awake. I can't believe the cost though. That would be something to have one of those.


Just to be in the same room with it i would say is amazing.

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Oh, and MAJOR props on keeping it a secret.

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I... I just had a cubegasm.


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OMG!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :) nice work!!! A 9x9 :shock:

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This is truly unbelievable!!! Although right now I am in a very big hurry (as there is the puzzle club function in progress) it was impossible to not leave a comment...

Absolutely fantastic work Tony, with this puzzle you have not only outdone yourself, but you have in fact outdone EVERYONE!!!

Mark the day 23rs February 2007, a lnadmark for cubing!



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Amazing work Tony.

This is definitely the puzzle of the month decade!

Could the Dutch Cube Day be held a few months earlier this year?

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haha! NICE WORK! :D please post a video :P hands down to the puzzle-making god :)


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Absolutely amazing, even that can't describe it! I really want to go to cube day this year, even more now!

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Tony,

that's really a masterpiece!! I don't know what to say. It's not only that it is a 9x9x9, but that you invented a new concept for holding the pieces together, which makes this work so extraordinary. This really shows, who is the most inventive head in the puzzle world actually. Take care of the design plans you have made, so that not anybody else starts making money of it without you.

Congratulations that you succeeded (and that you managed it not to tell anybody before). I am curious, if there will be any reaction from the Olympicube guys. They have a different concept and plan for a larger market, but I guess, they are quite surprised.

Of course I'm excitedly looking forward to the next DCD :D :D

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Truly amazing art and engineering Tony :)
I can't wait to see the video on YouTube. How is the suitability for "slow-speeding" this monstercube? And also, will it be possible to make even larger odd cubes with similar design?

I'm gobsmacked Tony :shock:

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SIMPLY AWESOME!!!!! :D :D :D :D
I'M REALLY SPEACHLESS!!
TONY, YOU ARE A GENIOUS!!!


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Excellent.

Tony if you are not going to made more of them you could give more details about the mechanism. Of course I am not going to try to make one (it is impossible for me).

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R.E.T. wrote:
Someone has something georges don't. That's amazing in itself.


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Incredible! Awesome! Bravo!
That is really breath-taking!
There's no way I could have predicted something like this!
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R.E.T. wrote:
Someone has something georges don't. That's amazing in itself.

That was a little bit of sunshine today :D


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What is more fascinating, the puzzle itself, or that you were able to keep it secret? ;)

I am stunned.
Sadly it will not go into mass production.




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That was all meant in fun georges, you know that, right?

Sure R., your post made me smile broadly and this was the first time for today, so I appreciated really.


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(oh) (my) (jesus). I bet a few other people besides me are anxious to solve that blindfolded!

PLEASE DO NOT DROP THAT THING.


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I used to think that you are very good at modding existing mechanisms but not at creating something new.
Edit: And I still do... I can't respect you anymore. At least I don't feel bad for not owning a Tony Fisher puzzle anymore.


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Unbelievable! Great job Tony. Now you need to take it on a world tour so we can all play with it.

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Excellent work Tony!!!

I wish I was able to go to DCD just to see this!!

Funny, last night I've started to fully legitimately solve some of your cuboids! I'm almost at the point where I can solve your 4x4x5. Now I see this! It brings a tear in my eye - I love it.

I hoped 2006 was a great Ebay year for you to help make that puzzle creation possible. Here's to a great 2007 and maybe possibly you can make a professor Skewb ;)

Cheers Tony,

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WOW!!!

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I want one... but I don't know how I could ever afford one. I too am eager to learn more about how you pulled this off.

GREAT JOB!!! I wonder what other secrets you have up your sleeve. You better already be working on a project for your 1000th post if you expect to top this.

I'm in awe,
Carl

P.S. Shouldn't this automatically advance Tony's rank to 9x9x9? ;)


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Very impressive, looks completely professional. Then again you do have quite a few years working with plastics and other things.


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