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skeneegee
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Post subject: Rubik's Cube's "Evil Twin" Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:18 pm |
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nicky_uk
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:24 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:33 am Location: United Kingdom
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Wow thats great!!!
_________________ Best Average - 29.97secs / Best Non-lucky Time 21.34secs
www.nickylewis.co.uk
Last edited by nicky_uk on Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Aleksey
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:26 pm |
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Joined: Mon Sep 09, 2002 2:19 pm Location: Yaroslavl, Russia and Maryland, USA
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This looks very much alike Tony Fisher's Cubie Chaos puzzles. Very nice! Any detail on how it is designed?
Aleksey.
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:41 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm Location: Arvada, CO
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It is like cubie chaos, that was my inspiration for this puzzle.
It's 2 2x2x2's siamesed at the corner and built up into a 3x3x3. It's a tiny bit bigger than a regular cube.
_________________ "It's like an alarm clock, WOO WOO" -Bubb Rubb
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Sean
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:51 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:38 am Location: Lafayette, IN.
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That is so cool! Fantastic job! After seeing only the first image of the solved state, I was thinking "uh oh, what's this thing going to look like scrambled?" and I was amazed by what I saw. Cool name too. 
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Andreas Nortmann
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:31 am |
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:03 am Location: Koblenz, Germany
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Seems like everyone uses better stickers than me ...
Ah. Forget it.
I like it. Especially the solved position. You can't distinguish it from a standard cube. Nicely done!
Andreas
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Carter
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:49 pm |
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Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2000 8:27 pm Location: Wilmington, NC, USA
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Oh, I love it! A great surprise.
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UberStuber
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:58 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:15 pm
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It could be interesting also to do this with 3x3x3's and build up to a 4x4x4...
_________________ -blearg
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qqwref
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:42 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:12 pm Location: NY, USA
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nicky_uk
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:08 am |
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Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:33 am Location: United Kingdom
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Carter
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:07 pm |
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Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2000 8:27 pm Location: Wilmington, NC, USA
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Andreas Nortmann
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:23 am |
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:03 am Location: Koblenz, Germany
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Very nice.
Where did you get the Fused Cubes from?
Andreas
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nicky_uk
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:25 am |
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Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:33 am Location: United Kingdom
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http://www.rubikfan.de or equivalent on eBay.
Its only small, but works nicely - Its a little larger than a generic keychain cube.
_________________ Best Average - 29.97secs / Best Non-lucky Time 21.34secs
www.nickylewis.co.uk
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:17 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm Location: Arvada, CO
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nicky_uk
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:35 am |
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Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:33 am Location: United Kingdom
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Looks great, much nicer than mine did!
I was going to fill in the cubies, but I found it really hard to make the sides straight, without spending a lot of time on it.
_________________ Best Average - 29.97secs / Best Non-lucky Time 21.34secs
www.nickylewis.co.uk
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:40 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm Location: Arvada, CO
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Nicky,
If you want to know the way to save time with epoxy putty, I'll tell you what I've learned.
1 - Take the pieces off of the mechanisim.
2 - When filling cubies make sure you take your time and get the epoxy nice and straight with as little extra as possible. Then when it's time to sand it down you don't have to spend as much time. It's alot easier to remove the extra epoxy when it's soft.
The first couple of puzzles that I filled the cubies on took me forever to sand because I put way too much inside. I think I have it figured out pretty well now.
thanks for the compliment - mike
_________________ "It's like an alarm clock, WOO WOO" -Bubb Rubb
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nicky_uk
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 5:09 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:33 am Location: United Kingdom
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Thanks for the advice.
Ive just got hold of another fused 2x2 puzzle, and I'll have another go at it soon. Ive got study leave coming up (for my final a-level exams, scary!), so i'll have time to give it a better shot.
_________________ Best Average - 29.97secs / Best Non-lucky Time 21.34secs
www.nickylewis.co.uk
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AndrewSeven
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:49 am |
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Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:57 pm Location: Montreal, Canada
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Those are nice
Are they really hard to solve?
A local store might be getting some siamese cubes and I'll be tempted to build a twin.
Is there any guide for building it?
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 1:36 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm Location: Arvada, CO
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AndrewSeven wrote: Those are nice Are they really hard to solve? A local store might be getting some siamese cubes and I'll be tempted to build a twin. Is there any guide for building it?
thank you..
Well the first time i mixed it up, it took me all day to solve it and I built the thing. I think I was going about it the wrong way though and now I can solve it in less than 10 min.
If you buy a 2x2x2 X4 from mefferts in the keychain section, it has exactly enough cubies and the mechanisim is already built for $15. I would recommend however using epoxy to fill the cubies otherwise you shred your stickers quickly.
I plan on posting directions since a lot of people have been asking me about that. I'm waiting for a puzzle shipment so the next one I build I'll take photos.
-mike
_________________ "It's like an alarm clock, WOO WOO" -Bubb Rubb
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AndrewSeven
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:02 am |
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Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:57 pm Location: Montreal, Canada
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A local store got in a bunch of siamese cubes.
They are eastsheen, 2x2 keychain size. 2,3 and 4 cubes fused.
I'm going to try making a twin.
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:29 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm Location: Arvada, CO
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Andrew,
The one that is four puzzles linked has exactly enough cubies to make an Evil Twin. If you want to come up with your own layout, be sure that you are able to twist it once it's together. If you'd like to use the official evil twin layout, heres a photo of how the cubies are extended and laid out.
The bottom layer is on the left, the middle layer is the middle and the top layer is on the right. The very center cubie in my photo will be different from what yours has, you'll use one of the double mechanisims inside the eastsheen X4. I can also hook you up with some custom vinyl stickers with logo and by the Cubesmith if you are interested.
good luck!
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_________________ "It's like an alarm clock, WOO WOO" -Bubb Rubb
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AndrewSeven
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:57 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:57 pm Location: Montreal, Canada
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Thanks for the pic, I'll try that one.
I started with three cubes made of 4 all grouped around one corner and it moves very well.
It might be better to use 2 2^2 than a 2^4 because you would have to undo the connected centers.
2 2^2 plus 1 2^4 can make 2 evil twins
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Seunghoon Yi
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:33 pm |
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Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:09 pm Location: Bay Area(925), CA
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I guess I revlived this thread...
Well anyway, by the personal guidence of skeneegee I was able to create my first custom puzzle. The Evil Twin. Although it is a mini one and the cubes are filled in horridly I think of this as a learning experience.
Here are some pictures
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Kal El
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:27 pm |
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Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:55 pm Location: Boise, ID
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This is such an excellent puzzle. I was fortunate enough to get a mini evil twin from skeneegee at WC05, and am very impressed with it.
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:46 am |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm Location: Arvada, CO
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Kal El wrote: This is such an excellent puzzle. I was fortunate enough to get a mini evil twin from skeneegee at WC05, and am very impressed with it.
Thank you Mr. Morris, I'm glad to see you here!
-mg
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Haara
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:49 am |
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 10:20 am Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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skeneegee wrote: heres a photo of how the cubies are extended and laid out.
I am not sure I got everything from your photo, but I made an illustration of how I interpreted it...
can someone please confirm I am right, or correct me where I am wrong
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Haara
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:11 am |
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 10:20 am Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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I read this topic more carfully and found a refference to Tony Fishers Cubie Chaos creations, and got interested in studying them more...
The result is the "connection chart" below...
I know I might be totaly wrong, but it is a suggestion that I really would like to either be confirmed or corrected...
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Noah
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:22 am |
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Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:05 am Location: Eastern Michigan University (Minnesota at heart)
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Amazing work Haara.
_________________ Fridrich 3x3 PB 22.63 3x3 Av 30.57
20, Male Started cubing Oct 15 '05
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:08 am |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:31 pm Location: Arvada, CO
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Haara,
That is the correct layout. Great job!
_________________ "It's like an alarm clock, WOO WOO" -Bubb Rubb
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Haara
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:32 am |
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Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 10:20 am Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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skeneegee wrote: Haara,
That is the correct layout. Great job!
Thanks!
Were you reffering to the Evil Twin, the Cubie Chaos 1 or both?
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skeneegee
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:41 am |
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Haara wrote: Were you reffering to the Evil Twin, the Cubie Chaos 1 or both?
Sorry, I meant on Evil Twin. I do not know about Cubie Chaos, those are Mr. Fishers design.
_________________ "It's like an alarm clock, WOO WOO" -Bubb Rubb
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patrickcondon
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:59 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:23 am Location: massachusetts, USA
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How many 2x2's do you need to make an evil twin? can I use eastsheens or does it have to be rubiks? Do I solve it just like a siamese 2x2?
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Rick Mazzante
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:19 pm |
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Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:08 am Location: Williamsport, Pennsylvania
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sorry had to edit it. i felt bad for my yelling at him
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Myke
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:30 pm |
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PKRTCN wrote: How many 2x2's do you need to make an evil twin? can I use eastsheens or does it have to be rubiks? Do I solve it just like a siamese 2x2?
1. You need 2 fused 2x2s
2. It would be easier to use rubik's because they are the same sized cubies as
a 3x3
3. No, there are turn restrictions (that what makes it so hard)
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UMichSpeedCubist
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:43 am |
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Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:43 pm Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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What would be a fair price for one? And who is willing to make one for me? I have solved Mike's before, it's quite tricky indeed.
I have money... to spend on puzzles now.
Erm, maybe I should go ask Mike in person!
-Doug
_________________ averages => 2x2 - 10.02, 3x3 - 22.16, 4x4 - 1:40.63, 5x5 - 2:22.60
single attempts => 4x4 - 1:21.78, 5x5 - 2:05.11, magic - 1.38, master magic - 5.03
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Swordsman Kirby
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:17 am |
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Myke wrote: 2. It would be easier to use rubik's because they are the same sized cubies as a 3x3
Well, they aren't.
_________________ [02:25] <fusion> does look ahead on a 3x3 make someone faster? [02:25] <Swordsman_Kirby> Yes. [02:25] <fusion> maybe i should try that
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:23 pm |
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UMichSpeedCubist wrote: What would be a fair price for one? And who is willing to make one for me? I have solved Mike's before, it's quite tricky indeed.
I have money... to spend on puzzles now.
Erm, maybe I should go ask Mike in person!
-Doug
ill build one for you for $150 (his went on ebay for something around $250 mine won't be as good quality, but they are still good. i'm planning on maing my third over the weekend
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UMichSpeedCubist
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:56 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:43 pm Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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I want it full sized and in black plastic, unstickered. Regular sized stickers should fit it.
And how do I know what quality it will be, I can judge if I saw one, but I don't know your work. But the price sounds fair...
_________________ averages => 2x2 - 10.02, 3x3 - 22.16, 4x4 - 1:40.63, 5x5 - 2:22.60
single attempts => 4x4 - 1:21.78, 5x5 - 2:05.11, magic - 1.38, master magic - 5.03
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:59 pm |
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i can only use the eastsheen keychain 2x2s, but i seriously recommend building one yourself, they are very easy.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:26 pm |
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mikeD
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:12 am |
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Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:40 pm Location: North Carolina
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That is one cool puzzle. 
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