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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:55 pm 
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I was trying to cut this as close as I can to the US Nationals, but I can't wait anymore.

I made this with 6 different colors of acrylic, and laminated it with clear stickers to protect the shiny!

It turns much smoother than I had hoped which makes fun playability despite the multiple solutions.

This was originally a practice run at a 3x3x3 version. That will be a pretty big undertaking I think.


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is tat a 4x4x4 inside there?


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yes, eastsheen. I think it would impossible to dismantle a Rubiks 4x4x4 if it was modified this way.

I recieved my 5x5x5 to build the 3x3x3 version from Mefferts and my girlfriend commandeered(sp?) it. It's much easier for her to use with her tiny hands.

Anyways, I have some other stuff to keep me busy so I'll have to wait for now.

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I loved playing with it! It's movement is amazing..

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Nicely done, Mike!

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As I have told you many times Mike.........

that puzzle is SO BRILIANT! I really LOVE it man!

10/10 for it!

keep it hard !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Excellent puzzle! I have always liked the ones that turn in a non-intuitive manner.

Strangely enough I remember seeing a picture of this puzzle posted somewhere on this forum in a post from several years ago... (I think)

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skeneegee wrote:
yes, eastsheen. I think it would impossible to dismantle a Rubiks 4x4x4 if it was modified this way.

I recieved my 5x5x5 to build the 3x3x3 version from Mefferts and my girlfriend commandeered(sp?) it. It's much easier for her to use with her tiny hands.

Anyways, I have some other stuff to keep me busy so I'll have to wait for now.
None the less. Consider yourself lucky. I would kill to have a girlfriend who shared my cubing hobbie.

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rastarubik wrote:

keep it hard !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is that just a typo?

georges wrote:
When leaving less space, the risk of the stickers leaving off increases imo especially when turning the puzzles and not aligning them carefully.


Doesn't this happen a lot? I think it would but it still looks like a awesome puzzle.

Cool a even faster way for me to solve to mini cube. :D :) 8-) :wink:


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Darren Grewe wrote:
Cool a even faster way for me to solve to mini cube. :D :) 8-) :wink:


Uh... I don't think this would be faster to solve than a standard mini cube. In fact, this looks like it would be a Dogic Junior compacted back into the shape of a cube. Very well done, Mike! I'm impressed! :D L8r.


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I can't stop staring at it ... ... ... ...
very very nice, Mike.
I would like to have one :o :oops:


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Darren Grewe wrote:
rastarubik wrote:

keep it hard !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is that just a typo?


:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

When it = work..............

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Does this mean this puzzle has no colour scheme? Because you can switch any two faces without a parity from what I see.

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georges wrote:
I can't stop staring at it ... ... ... ...
very very nice, Mike.
I would like to have one :o :oops:



I would like for you to have one too buddy...

xcool, yes, there is no color scheme. Does anyone know how many solutions it has?

Thanks for everyone's kind words.

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skeneegee wrote:
Does anyone know how many solutions it has?


30, I think.


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Johannes91 wrote:
skeneegee wrote:
Does anyone know how many solutions it has?


30, I think.


I am thinking that it is 45 becuase
4 turns on each face x 6 faces + 6 places for x color to be placed + 5 places for x color to be placed + 4 places for x color to be placed + 3 places for x color to be placed + 2 places for x color to be placed + 1 places for x color to be placed = 45 Permutations.

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I only counted the colour schemes... Stupid me. Every face has 4*3*2 positions, and I still think there are 30 colour schemes. So 24*30 = 720

Please correct if I'm wrong.

Edit: I'm really stupid... Every face has 24 positions. So 24*6*30 = 4320? I hope this time I got it right.


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Johannes91 wrote:
skeneegee wrote:
Does anyone know how many solutions it has?


30, I think.


Yup... 30 solutions (6! ways to arrange the faces, 24 orientations of the cube). For Solutions, we have 24!/4!^6 wih no parity restrictions = 3,246,670,537,110,000. Not bad! :D Now, how about doing the same thing with the standard cube? :wink: L8r.


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Tim Browne wrote:
Yup... 30 solutions (6! ways to arrange the faces, 24 orientations of the cube).


Is it really??

Just trying to explain my thought here:
Consider one face face fixed, then you got 5 different colours for the opposing face.
For the third face it doesn't matter what one you place first, so that have "only one way" to be placed.
For the next face there are three once to choose from, the next there are two and lastly you are left with one..

This would give a total of 5*3*2=30 different solutions.

Ok, that was as you said, but what I don't get is how you came up with the statment inside the paranteses??
I know that that calculation equal 30, but how could you find there were 24 orientations?


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Haara wrote:
This would give a total of 5*3*2=30 different solutions.

Could it be considered to be a "solution" with the colours not solid faces (say two oposing faces single colous and the rest of the colours marks the edges)?
(Or rather; do you think that there exist "pretty patterns" that are worth considering almost as solutions?)
An example:
D:white, U: yellow, (the following mentioned in left to right) F: red & green, R: green & orange, B: orange & blue, L: blue & red

Is there other "pretty patterns" that might fit in the question above?


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Mike, This is a fabulous puzzle. I love the surprize inside. Better than Cracker Jacks.


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One thought just crossed my mind:

How much bigger than the "start cube" is this puzzle?


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