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 Post subject: Jason's Copper Orb
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:06 am 
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I'm happy to present the Copper Orb. It's a LOWER order version of the vintage Parker Brothers puzzle "The Orb". Instead of 4, 5 or 6 tracks of beads, it has only 3 tracks.

It has been plated with copper, and then sealed with Epoxy. A vintage orb donated beads for this puzzle.

The rows of beads have the following counts (8-16-8). The number of beads are dictated by the geometry, and the fact that the smallest rows have 8 beads.


This orb can stop in 2 positions BETWEEN each 180 degree turn.

This puzzle is actually a little more difficult than the 4 row Orb because there is no 90 degree position.

Thanks for looking!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:14 am 
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Absolutely gorgeous!

I believe this last photo to be a personal invitation to juggle them.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:20 am 
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Stunning!! We have orders 3-6 and copper to bronze!!

As a question regarding the orders, is it *possible* to have an order 2 orb puzzle? I'll say that If you did make it that far, use a platinum, pearl, or two-tone coat (I know that one can be done).

But I'm having trouble finding words to explain this!! Fantastic work Jason!


Question about the middle layer: are the beads unable to fill the gap that is present due to the shape, or is that small gap there because it became on odd numbered layer? Can 17 beads fit, but to preserve the simplicity you left 1 out?

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
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Hey NextGen-
This one does have some extra play in the middle row, but not enough for a 17th bead. Theoretically the gap is 0.16, but there are various engineering tolerances adding a bit more room. Not enough to cheat.
Also, a funny thing I've found. One extra bead worth of room is NOT enough to cheat with even bead counts! You need 1.5 beads worth of room to cheat. Know why? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:22 pm 
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The last image alone was worth the effort!
Could you upload or send me biger versions of the images? With a height of 450 pixels there is not enough left after cutting the puzzle from its background.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:59 pm 
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JasonSmith wrote:
Hey NextGen-
This one does have some extra play in the middle row, but not enough for a 17th bead. Theoretically the gap is 0.16, but there are various engineering tolerances adding a bit more room. Not enough to cheat.
Also, a funny thing I've found. One extra bead worth of room is NOT enough to cheat with even bead counts! You need 1.5 beads worth of room to cheat. Know why? :)

I have a feeling it's obvious... But I'm not seeing an answer yet... I'd imagine it is due to the possibility of reaching a position that is otherwise not reachable on a normal orb.

Right now I can't see why, but I will say that I have a creative imagination and this has me blanking on possibilities.

But a question; can a order-2 orb be made?

If it can, and you do make one, I suggest a 2-tone coat of a metallic blue and metallic red, a metallic green because it could look like an alien ship :lol: , or a pearl coloured coat because pearl coating looks nice.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
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Now I can't wait for the Titanium Orb...


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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:03 pm 
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I love these.

JasonSmith wrote:
You need 1.5 beads worth of room to cheat. Know why? :)
Is it because there'd be an odd number of beads, and without the extra room you couldn't twist the hemispheres?

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Jason, what a lovely family!!!

The Orb is a special puzzle which deserves quality and accuracy,
and I am glad all this work was done by a super designer like you!

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
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Coaster1235 wrote:
I love these.

JasonSmith wrote:
You need 1.5 beads worth of room to cheat. Know why? :)
Is it because there'd be an odd number of beads, and without the extra room you couldn't twist the hemispheres?



That's right! It's tough to imagine, but anytime you have a gap on one side that allows moving a bead from one side of the split to the other, there is a bead straddling the split on the other side of the Orb! You need another one half bead gap to get it out of the way.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
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Andreas Nortmann wrote:
The last image alone was worth the effort!
Could you upload or send me biger versions of the images? With a height of 450 pixels there is not enough left after cutting the puzzle from its background.

Andreas


Sorry about that Andreas! Here are some larger photos:
http://www.puzzleforge.com/images/photo ... rb/larger/

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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:30 am 
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Thank you Jason.


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 Post subject: Re: Jason's Copper Orb
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NXTgen wrote:
But a question; can a order-2 orb be made?

If it can, and you do make one, I suggest a 2-tone coat of a metallic blue and metallic red, a metallic green because it could look like an alien ship :lol: , or a pearl coloured coat because pearl coating looks nice.

A 2-Orb is Oskar's Square Mixup!

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