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 Post subject: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:23 am 
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[Moderator]I have split the solving related posts from hereto this new topic.
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I've only managed to sticker 2 of them so far, scrambled both and partially solved 1. I think they will be as I first thought.. quite similar types of solves. The majority of them look interesting but not immensely difficult, a Sunday arvo type solve. Which is what most people will probably want and enjoy anyway.

Neptune and Mercury look like the harder ones, probably Mercury might be the hardest?

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 Post subject: Re: MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:31 am 
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Burgo wrote:
I've only managed to sticker 2 of them so far, scrambled both and partially solved 1. I think they will be as I first thought.. quite similar types of solves. The majority of them look interesting but not immensely difficult, a Sunday arvo type solve. Which is what most people will probably want and enjoy anyway.

having accepted what you say - we should all bear in mind who it is that makes this statement! Mr Bandaging finding them easy doesn't really say much for the rest of us! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:43 am 
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My wife is solving the Jupiter as I type, and she likes it, she's pretty happy with it and doesn't think it's too hard, she's only a casual solver..

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 Post subject: Re: MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:24 am 
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Burgo wrote:
My wife is solving the Jupiter as I type, and she likes it, she's pretty happy with it and doesn't think it's too hard, she's only a casual solver..

OMG!!!
When you've finished with her please send her to me! She might be a keeper!
Mine won't even touch a cube let alone a Megaminx and even less a bandaged Megaminx!!
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 Post subject: Re: MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx
PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:45 pm 
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I've bought the set. They've arrived this weekend. I have stickered 5 of them.
I have solved Saturn and Venus, the easiest ones.
In my opinion Mercury is the hardest puzzle.


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 Post subject: Re: MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx
PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:38 am 
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Hi Dreiser,

Did you find the parity :) ?

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 Post subject: Re: MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx
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Burgo wrote:
Hi Dreiser,

Did you find the parity :) ?
Hi Burgo,
I'm not sure, but I think parity is only possible with the rhomboid faces (a wrong 180 turn). I have solved Saturn and Venus only once with no parity. Both puzzles have only one rhomboid face (white) and I have stickered the rhomboid face with the planet stickers and they are oriented between red/blue.
Did you have parity?

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I have solved the Earth and I've had a parity. 2 corners are in the wrong place. The rhomboid face did the parity. My last face is the dark-yellow and I can easy fix the parity. I take out the pieces from the dark-blue rhomboid face and turn the face 180 degree and insert the pieces again and solve the rest.


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 Post subject: Re: MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx
PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:57 am 
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I have a lot of fun with the BermudaMinx puzzles. The turning is very good. I recommend this puzzles.

Today I have solved the Uranus.
The strategy is always the same (until now). Find an adequate last layer. I choose the violet face. The orange and light blue faces provide support. It's always good, when an easy solvable rhomboid face (parity) is near the last layer.


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 Post subject: Re: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
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I have moved a few solving related posts to this new topic in the Solving Puzzles forum.

If you want to share specific sequences, I would suggest to use the TP dodecahedon notation as discussed here.

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I would suggest the suffix + or - to notate half turns (36° in this case), as introduced for the Bermuda Cubes by Andrea here.

+ stands for a clockwise half turn, - for counter clockwise.

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 Post subject: Re: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:08 pm 
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Today I have solved Neptune, Jupiter and Mars.

Neptune:
My last layer is grey. The orange and light green faces provide support for the last layer. I start to solve with the violet and dark yellow faces.
Jupiter:
My last layer is red. The pink and dark blue faces provide support for the last layer. I start to solve with light yellow, light blue and violet faces.
Mars:
My last layer is white. The red and dark green faces provide support for the last layer. I start to solve with red and light yellow faces, but I struggled a little with the dark yellow and orange faces. It's better to start with dark yellow and orange.


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- Find an adequate last layer.
- Always start with the special centers and try to solve the adjacent edges.
- Sometimes it's better to pair "corner+edge" or "corner+edge+corner" in a uncommitted layer and fit in together
- It's always good, when an easy solvable rhomboid face (parity) is near the last layer

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 Post subject: Re: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:40 pm 
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Yes I found the parity on Bermuda Megaminx Jupiter. :mrgreen:
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Fixing this is not difficult, but a bit messy:
[spoiler]I turned one of the parallelogram faces 180° and re-solved. For some reason I had a lot of difficulty with the last layer the second time around. I'm going to do some tests on the puzzle now that it is solved.[/spoiler]
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My other puzzle is Mercury. Looks very difficult, with four special centres surrounding the white face. I might have to order an easier variant or two first. 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:35 pm 
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Burgo wrote:
I just became aware when I started stickering, that every piece has the type of joining that can be made into `coloured plastic`. It's possible that those who want coloured plastic might be able to wait for this.
I'm going to have to retract this statement, I was deceived. I just pulled the individual piece types apart and I found that one of the piece types isn't appropriate for this. It seems we won't be seeing a coloured plastic version :( .

Here is a photo of the individual piece types. The Megaminx corners and edges are completely interchangeable.
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 Post subject: Re: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
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Thanks for the pictures, Burgo. Now that I know the edges can be split apart, I think I will be ordering a few of these soon!

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 Post subject: Re: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:26 am 
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Just be a little bit wary, if your intention is to rebuild them to make different versions:
The centre caps, I found reasonably difficult to remove, it's just hard to get a grip, and they're tapered.
The standard Megaminx edge and corners were easy to separate, no problems there.
But the Fishered ones were more difficult, in particular the smaller `Corner (Fishered edge)`, I wouldn't recommend pulling that apart repeatedly, I reckon you'd damage it easily.

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 Post subject: Re: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:29 am 
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Looking at the map of the BermudaMinx planets, I see that Venus and Saturn both have a parallelogram face on White and one trapezoid face on the opposite side of the puzzle (grey hemisphere). Venus has it on the cream face and Saturn has it on the light blue face. The trapezoids are in a different orientation between the two puzzles and the phase relationship between the parallelogram on the white face and the trapezoid is different. I'm really curious to know what difference - if any - these slight variations makes.

Now that I've had a go at Jupiter and found it very fun, I'm keen to try others in the series, particularly some easier ones, before I tackle Mercury. Here are my takes on the difficulties, please feel free to provide your own experience and analysis. I think that Venus or Saturn will be relatively easy. Uranus looks to be about the same as Jupiter, perhaps a bit harder than Venus and Saturn. Mars looks to be very challenging, similar to Mercury.

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 Post subject: Re: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:12 am 
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hello

Any chance of some youtube videos lads? I'd like to see a review or demonstration solves.


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 Post subject: Re: How to Solve the MF8/Dayan BermudaMinx?
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hello

Burgo, is the earth and uranus exactly the same solve?

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