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 Post subject: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:04 am 
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Pre-Order now. Brand : mf8

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compare with my old design: StellaMinx :)
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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Wooow cool. Ordered.

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Does adding the corners make for an easier or more difficult solve than the regular Starminx?

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Shouldn't this be called the "Curvy Starminx II" or "Curvy Face Turning Starminx"?

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Does adding the corners make for an easier or more difficult solve than the regular Starminx?
Well, you now have 20 new corners to place and orient, so a bit harder.

My third pre-order this week! So much for my "summer puzzle buying hiatus" :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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This puzzle... It is the shape of the starminx part of Eric's master starminx?

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Does adding the corners make for an easier or more difficult solve than the regular Starminx?

They don't really make much of a difference. They show you the color scheme which prevents accidentally solving into the mirror color scheme. Other than that, they don't really have much effect on the solve. They don't increase the difficulty or commutator length for the other pieces.

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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rubikcollector123 wrote:
This puzzle... It is the shape of the starminx part of Eric's master starminx?
It's quite similar. Eric's Master Starminx has a shallower outward curve.
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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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themathkid wrote:
Does adding the corners make for an easier or more difficult solve than the regular Starminx?


It's just like solving the corners of a Megaminx first. Or in other words the solution now consists of a Kilominx. Then you proceed with the Starminx solve. So there is more to solve. But is it more difficult? I wouldn't say so. From a complete beginner's point of view, probably yes though.
In any way, it's an element in the series of face turing dodecahedra and therefore an awesome collector's item! Place it on your shelf between the Pyraminx Crystal and the Starminx II and you will feel good. :lol:
Also it will be fun to solve.
And the next thing I will do is look for clean corner cycles. That will be difficult and useless and cool.

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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alaskajoe wrote:
And the next thing I will do is look for clean corner cycles. That will be difficult and useless and cool.
The first simple one I spotted is [4,3]: [C2&2, F'&2, C'2&2, F&2, D', F', D, F'&2, C2&2, F&2, C'2&2, D', F, D]

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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It's not a Curvy Starminx: viewtopic.php?p=290336#p290336


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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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What is the expacted date of sales start? How long I'll have to wait if I pre-order it now?


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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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bmenrigh wrote:
alaskajoe wrote:
And the next thing I will do is look for clean corner cycles. That will be difficult and useless and cool.
The first simple one I spotted is [4,3]: [C2&2, F'&2, C'2&2, F&2, D', F', D, F'&2, C2&2, F&2, C'2&2, D', F, D]


When I first read [4,3], I was amazed and surprised. I right away checked myself. After some few tries I quickly saw that I couldn't isolate a corner by doing megaminx like corner moves, but that I would need slice moves. After doing 4 slice moves which both consited of 144° turns, I already saw a [4,3] to isolate a corner. I however got confused by and suddenly I had found a clean 3 cycle of edges with a [4,4]. I tried again, not letting myself be confused with the seeming chaos and got it too.

I checked yours and mine is not the same. Too bad, that would have been cool.

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Crazy56U wrote:
Can you elaborate? The thread shows several interesting designs, including the puzzle that is the subject of this thread. I can't see where it shows that this puzzle is not a "Curvy Starminx".

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Pete the Geek wrote:
Crazy56U wrote:
Can you elaborate? The thread shows several interesting designs, including the puzzle that is the subject of this thread. I can't see where it shows that this puzzle is not a "Curvy Starminx".

It's "Gelatin Brain's 1.1.4". Or, more specifically, a curvy StellaMinx.


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 Post subject: Re: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Does anyone know if the Original Plastic color is a milky, yellowy white color like the original mf8 megaminx plastic color, or is it white like most white bodied puzzles?

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Crazy56U wrote:
Pete the Geek wrote:
Crazy56U wrote:
Can you elaborate? The thread shows several interesting designs, including the puzzle that is the subject of this thread. I can't see where it shows that this puzzle is not a "Curvy Starminx".

It's "Gelatin Brain's 1.1.4". Or, more specifically, a curvy StellaMinx.

Well, grigr himself asked for comparison with his Stellaminx design, so, yes, it is clearly a curvy version of the Stellaminx - and he's aware. "Curvy Starminx" is just a name. He could have called it "Dodecacurvy" (which is a funny name and I made it on the spot) and it would have been perfectly fine.

Ok, BTW I now claim intellectual ownership of the name "Dodecacurvy" ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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gal_eon wrote:
What is the expacted date of sales start? How long I'll have to wait if I pre-order it now?

I ordered it and received a tracking number today. So it must be already available.


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@5hinigami: Thanks, I've just received an e-mail with confirmation - the order status is "In process".


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 Post subject: Re: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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I got a tracking number WEEKS before the pre-ordered cube was shipped. Getting a tracking number on a pre-order does not automatically mean it is in. :)


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 Post subject: Re: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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The black one is now available on the MF8 Shop site so I imagine that Calvin will have it in stock soon.


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Kattenvriendin wrote:
I got a tracking number WEEKS before the pre-ordered cube was shipped. Getting a tracking number on a pre-order does not automatically mean it is in. :)

Thanks I didn't know that. I was already wondering why I can't track it ^^


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 Post subject: Re: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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I've received my "Curvy Starminx" but it's not stickered :( :) I'll post a picture when I get it done. It turns really well. The only slight disappointment is that the corner and edge pieces aren't capped and you can see this mid-turn:
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 Post subject: Re: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Gus wrote:
I've received my "Curvy Starminx" but it's not stickered :( :) I'll post a picture when I get it done. It turns really well.
Thanks for the update Gus. I've been tracking mine and should receive it this week. I prefer stickering puzzles myself to ensure quality, but I understand that not everyone enjoys it and some can't do it.

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 Post subject: Re: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Mine left Hongkong on August 3rd. I had pre-ordered it on June 23rd and it was shipped on July 30th.

No complaint, just an information.
Others may compare their data with mine.

I prefer too to do the stickering on a complex puzzle myself.

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 Post subject: Re: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Stickering done - it looks great.
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It also fits into the mf8 storage/display box:
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Does anyone know if mf8 is going to sell these separately?

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Gus wrote:
It also fits into the mf8 storage/display box
Does anyone know if mf8 is going to sell these separately?

Doesn't it come in one? The picture at HK Now Store shows it in one. I assume that mine will have one when it shows up later this week.


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Doesn't it come in one? The picture at HK Now Store shows it in one. I assume that mine will have one when it shows up later this week.
Mine came in a card box marked "Master Kilominx / Starminx / Helicopter Dodecahedron" :( Calvin, is this a mistake?

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My unboxing and review.

Mine didn't come in the display box. Volitar, don't expect one... In fact, it came in a box that wasn't a box. Very strange. Once the stickers are on, it looks really nice. Feels good. Turns reasonably well and I think (and hope) it will turn better as it's scrambled and solved. Really looking forward to tackling it.

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 Post subject: Re: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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Hi Rline,

Oh , a faceturning starminx with corners.
Does it turn better than the ft starminx (or bauhinia) ?


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Gus wrote:
Volitar Prime wrote:
Doesn't it come in one? The picture at HK Now Store shows it in one. I assume that mine will have one when it shows up later this week.
Mine came in a card box marked "Master Kilominx / Starminx / Helicopter Dodecahedron" :( Calvin, is this a mistake?
Mine has arrived today. It came in the same card box as described by Gus. I don't mind that I have no "display box". I would never use it for display, anyway. (BTW, I had never a real problem with the packaging at hknowstore. I remember some bags that looked really battered, but the content was unharmed, always.)

The puzzle turns very well out of the box.
I have tried a lot of commutators, because I find the difference astonishing very often between casual random turns and the stuff you need. Sometimes I find a puzzle good at the first glance just trying random moves, but it catches afterwards during a solve. This one turns well.

It looks very good even in mid turn.
I like it :)

@Andrea: I find it better than the FT Starminx - not broken in and not yet lubricated.

It has to remain unstickered for the next two weeks, though.

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Andrea wrote:
Hi Rline,

Oh , a faceturning starminx with corners.
Does it turn better than the ft starminx (or bauhinia) ?

I would say that out of the box it is at least as good. Have a look at the video to be sure for yourself, though. I don't remember what each of them were like out of the box, but the FT starminx caught, didn't it? This one doesn't catch at all.

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 Post subject: Re: mf8 Curvy Starminx - on hknowstore
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I received mine yesterday and out of the box it was quite catchy and unstable.
A very good way to lube it is to take it apart and just lube the megaminx core explicitly.
I would tension it very tight and then try out every side and lube them until they all turn perfect.
After reasambling it should be very stable and turn very very good.

Hope that helped, I'm very pleased with that puzzle and the solving is quite different then the starminx.
At least when you try to solve the first two layers by intuition and the last one with commutators.
If you solve it step by step(corners, edges, centers, triangles) it's not that much different.


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Mine arrived. I must say it is fantastic.
It turns really well too. In three entire solves I had only one lock up that took several few seconds to get rid of. It can be used carelessly as far as ligning up is concerned. Slight corner cutting works.

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Wooow cool. :D

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My puzzle came so tight and hard to turn! I did not experience the same careless turning as alaskajoe. Constant lockups. It needed to be disassembled to the core and lubricated and loosened up. Naturally I figured I'd take some pictures for the board.

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After I was done it was so much better. I'm still getting some catching but certainly a huge improvement. I think a bit more tightening and it will be fine. I was surprised to find none of the pieces had any flash bits to scrape out, nice!

Here is a video showing the effortless turning with one finger. There was a lot of silicone on the surface so my thumb slipped off for one of the turns.

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