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juanan
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Post subject: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:23 pm |
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japan version.
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alaskajoe
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:28 pm |
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Doug Roth
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:05 pm |
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BN
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:07 pm |
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Seems like it would be very bulky. Neat though.
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Zzupler
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:33 pm |
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Does anyone know how many bandaging pieces you get with this one, or the price?
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mitchblahman
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:36 pm |
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QuirkyCubes
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:49 pm |
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Kattenvriendin
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:11 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:56 am Location: The Netherlands
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mitchblahman wrote: Not that exact puzzle. Note the pegs on the link. These cubes have tiles more like caps.
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mixer
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:50 am |
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Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:33 am Location: Belgium
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That's strange, the same puzzle idea, just 2 days later? I ordered the cube with the pegs. Is there a link to the 'Rubik's' bandaged cube? I wonder how many bandaging tiles you get with this one.
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Spongeharry
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:44 pm |
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Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:04 am Location: exeter,england
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That system look,s easier to use than the pegs system.
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Hidetoshi
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:23 am |
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:47 pm Location: Tokushima, Japan
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Sorry for my secrecy. I know the cube's information about 10 months ago. When I talked Mega-House's my partner about my bandage-able cube idea, he said the Seven Towns is already making the cube. And their cube's mechanisms are not similar to the other cube. Their cube's mechanisms are similar to my bandage-able cube.  Hidetoshi
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Volitar Prime
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:33 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:43 pm Location: Shelby Township, MI. USA
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Is there any update about the availability of this?
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pooya13
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:05 am |
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Volitar Prime wrote: Is there any update about the availability of this? The Japanese Amazon website lists it as "In Stock". Apparently it was released Nov. 1st. But it looks a bit bumpy. I wish instead they would make it so you could replace the single cubie tiles with the bigger ones. Similar to the ones with the pegs. (which are impossible to remove by the way!)  Edit: I found a video.
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Kattenvriendin
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:51 am |
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Easy enough to remove with a spudger tool  See the other thread on that.
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aleutien
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:55 am |
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Zzupler wrote: Does anyone know how many bandaging pieces you get with this one, or the price? Price is 2,520 Japanese Yen You get 27 cover pieces in total in each box: 9 x singles blue 9 x singles yellow 3 x doubles (white, red & green) 3 x triples (white, red & green) 3 x quadruples (white, red & green) I just got mine and it's pretty nice .... 
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Vadim
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:13 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2001 2:50 am Location: Nottingham, UK
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Isn't it a KO thingy? When someone else starts producing puzzles, that was not their idea, this site explodes with threads about KO puzzles. When Rubik's brand produces one, it's OK. There were so many producers of 4x4x4 cube and nobody shouted that they are KOs. Though if someone produces another 7x7x7 or 8x8x8 - it's a KO. Does that mean KO only applies to Verdes cubes or any latest inventions and is Rubik's brand immune to it?
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katsmom
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:31 pm |
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This has been discussed before. Hidetoshi was working with the company to produce this puzzle. While his was in the factory, the one produced by cube twist came out. Simultaneous development.
The KO factor of this has been dealt with already.
As far as bandaging is concerned, I don't recall anyone patenting one. Mefferts made a version back in the early to mid-90's. I made one in 1994 using paper stickers because I was teaching a class and was asked to make a harder version by one of my students. I'd never seen a bandaged version before then. Does that mean I made a KO before I knew bandaged cubes existed? No. It means I had an idea and went with it.
If you query the KO policy, please remember to ask a moderator before posting.
As for this one, it has nothing to do with the Rubik's brand.
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Vadim
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:46 pm |
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Katsmom, I am not querying KO policy. I just had a few ideas stolen by big produces and now their rights are protected, not mine. So I think there's no justice in the world and think "sod them" I have the right to support KO producers, who steal their ideas too! They had a choice to make too, that's all. Vadim
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katsmom
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:14 pm |
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I'm not going to argue any point with you. I just want to say that you have the right to purchase whatever you wish. KO or not. We don't care, but we do care when policy is flouted. My previous post was in regards to your asking about this particular puzzle being copied. I simply told you the brief decision that was made by this forum.
If you had ideas taken by big companies, you need to take it up with them, not with TP. We can't do anything about that, we can only enforce our own policies.
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Vadim
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:02 pm |
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That's exactly, what I'm talking about! If I flout KO policy, you'll be the first one right on top of me. If the big company did, it's my problem to sort it all out with them. Thanks, Katsmom.
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DLitwin
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:13 am |
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I am trying to understand the issue being discussed here, perhaps you can help. Here is my understanding: 1.) The concept of a bandaged cube has existed for decades. People have been doing this with stickers and tiles for a long time. 2.) Two companies seem to have chosen to produce plastic bandage kits at roughly the same time. 3.) Vadim has had some ideas stolen So based on #1 it is a bit hard to call *any* bandaging kit KO, but if my understanding of #2 is incorrect and you have strong evidence that one company saw the product of the other and thereafter decided to copy it, certainly let me know. This is what Rox means by "contact a moderator before posting". We would like to be able to apply our policy in the best way possible but we need information to do so. Generally we tend to have access to a number of people with information so I think we do OK, but it never hurts to contact us privately to give us info. We may not have had it. Regarding #3, I'm sorry if this happened but I would need more information to know if it is relevant to #1 and #2. If not, why is it in this thread? I think what Roxanne means is that this site can't really "fix" anything regarding IP protection. We do our best to honor what we see to be original work, and restrict the disrespect of those being copied, but that authority only applies to this site. If you feel your original work is being copied and this site has content promoting that copied work let us know (privately is preferred). We'll certainly investigate and take appropriate action. Dave 
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Vadim
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:16 pm |
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Hi Dave, This is nothing to do with production of bandaged cubes. This is about application of KO label to puzzles and the way some members of this site are "protecting" inventors. It just seems to be selective, that's all. They should either speak out for all such ideas or not at all. Thanks for trying, but I don't think my problem is solvable. Let's not discuss it further. Vadim
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DLitwin
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Post subject: Re: bandaged cube - rubik´s brand Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:00 am |
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Vadim wrote: This is nothing to do with production of bandaged cubes. This is about application of KO label to puzzles and the way some members of this site are "protecting" inventors. It just seems to be selective, that's all. They should either speak out for all such ideas or not at all. This is all very abstract, I'm not sure what we are even discussing. Vadim wrote: Thanks for trying, but I don't think my problem is solvable. Let's not discuss it further. As you wish. Perhaps following up in private will be easier. Regardless of whether or not I can be of any assistance I'd like to at least understand what is being discussed. Regards, Dave
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