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 Post subject: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:26 am

Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:13 am
Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia
Hi,

I present my next puzzle from the series of cubes with magnets and based
on "metal" sphere - SuperZ. This cube is interesting combination
of 2x2 and Skewb cubes.

The idea to implement this puzzle was suggested by Evgeniy Grigoriev
(aka grigr), also he created 3D-model. I found the pattern for magnets.

The cube turns very smooth and very stable. Enjoy!

Video: SuperZ
Related: Split Mixup, Dino Little Chop, 48 cube, SuperX, Dino Chop, Little Chop, Makarov's Cube

Best regards,

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:00 am

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Location: Jarrow, England
Looks simple enough for someone to design a "proper" mechanism Nice puzzle by the way.

Can you explain why the price is so high on Shapeways, considering there is no "core"?

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:29 am

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:34 am
Location: Wollongong, Australia
Very nice puzzle seems like with some more work it could have great potential for mass production...

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:31 am

Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:32 pm
It's cool how it looks exactly as if it were a bevel cube, but then it turns and... surprise!

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:07 am

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I know someone else who is gonna come out with a real one. AKA one with a mechanism. You should seriously consider implementing mechanisms in there, it's much less interesting if it's mechanically worthless
I like the puzzles you make but they would be 100 times better with a mechanism !

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:24 am

Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:47 am
Location: near Utrecht, Netherlands
Yes, I've had a proper mechanical implementation in the works for a while. It's currently being printed.
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Adam and Jason made a Skewb+2x2x2 in December 2009, but I gather it never worked very well. It used a buildup based on a SuperX. Mine builds up through a Dino Rhombic Dodecahedron, Dino 3x3x3, Rex 3x3x3 and Master Skewb + 3x3x3 (all appropriately bandaged). Of course it's even more complex (178 parts) so there's no telling if it will work well due to the friction that's to be expected.
For what it is, your magnetic one is a very nice alternative: it turns very nicely with a little click. Congratulations.

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:36 am

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:09 pm
Location: Missouri
TomZ wrote:
Yes, I've had a proper mechanical implementation in the works for a while. It's currently being printed.
That looks beautiful. I'm eager to see how it turns out.

Iaroslavski, yours looks very nice and at the end of the day may very well turn better than is possible with a mechanical implementation. Congrats!

Carl

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:04 am

Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:50 pm
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
when I see titles like these in the "recent posts" section on the right I get really excited.
when I find its made with magnets I really get disapointed. this is my last rant on magnet puzzles.

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:36 pm

Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:03 am
Location: Koblenz, Germany
This puzzle is another slot filler. Thank you.

Can you post two images showing the puzzle in the two midturn states?

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:00 pm

Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:13 am
Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:19 pm

Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:04 am
Location: Beijing China
TomZ wrote:
Yes, I've had a proper mechanical implementation in the works for a while. It's currently being printed.
Attachment:
2455a60576764a20b91e160[1].png

Adam and Jason made a Skewb+2x2x2 in December 2009, but I gather it never worked very well. It used a buildup based on a SuperX. Mine builds up through a Dino Rhombic Dodecahedron, Dino 3x3x3, Rex 3x3x3 and Master Skewb + 3x3x3 (all appropriately bandaged). Of course it's even more complex (178 parts) so there's no telling if it will work well due to the friction that's to be expected.
For what it is, your magnetic one is a very nice alternative: it turns very nicely with a little click. Congratulations.

Master Skewb + 3x3x3 cube really exist? It's too exciting.

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:20 pm

Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:38 pm
Location: Russia
Excellent

Tom, interest design

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:40 pm

Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:26 pm
Location: Saratoga Springs, NY
Wow, I was just working on an updated version of my mechanism... It never worked great because of the inherent SuperX "squishiness", and the fact that the layer thicknesses were all wrong for SLS nylon printing, but was functional for a first prototype.

Perhaps we can arrange for all 3 designs to be tested by an objective (and very lucky) puzzler to see which will be the winner...!

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:46 am

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:49 am

Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:13 am
Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia
2x2x2+Helicopter at least

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:56 am

Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:48 am
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iaroslavski wrote:
2x2x2+Helicopter at least

Eric already has that on his shapeways shop

Also, Tom, why didn't you add a heli layer ? It's pretty easy and the cool thing about it is that it shapeshifts in more way than you could imagine

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:45 am

Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:03 am
Location: Koblenz, Germany
iaroslavski wrote:
Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:56 am

Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:13 am
Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia
Gus wrote:
Can you explain why the price is so high on Shapeways, considering there is no "core"?

The price was down to \$97.76, enjoy!

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 Post subject: grigr's version of the SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:45 am

Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:38 pm
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I just built this puzzle;)

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:59 pm

Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2001 2:50 am
Location: Nottingham, UK
Are both designs exactly the same?

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:15 pm

Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:38 pm
Location: Russia
Yes
This is my design

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:27 pm

Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:06 am
All we need now is the 2x2+helicopter+skewb.

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:57 am

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:09 pm
Location: Missouri
Are both designs exactly the same?
What 2 designs are we talking about? I believe this is grigr's design:

https://www.shapeways.com/model/381037/superz.html?modelId=381037

It uses magnets. Above I see a design TomZ worked on which doesn't use magnets but I don't believe that finished puzzles was ever presented and I don't know why. If these are the two designs are are asking about then they are clearly not the same. Just not sure I'm answering the intended question...

Carl

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:14 pm

Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:06 pm
wwwmwww wrote:
Are both designs exactly the same?
What 2 designs are we talking about? I believe this is grigr's design...

according to the information on grigr's Shapeways shop, the overall design of the SuperZ is his, and iaroslavski was the one who figured out how to arrange the magnets to get it to work properly. both are offering it in their respective Shapeways shops, but both the puzzle and the descriptive video are the same.

i'm confused whether there is a miscommunication in the posts, or if this a battle for design rights.
...perhaps both designers can comment on this...?

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:10 am

Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:38 pm
Location: Russia
Hi all.
At first I wanted to do this puzzle by using magnets, but I could not find the correct pattern for the magnets.
So I asked for help from Vladimir. He find the correct magnets schema and think out name SuperZ, and also wanted to make this puzzle for himself.
Recently my client ordered from me SuperZ, I did it and posted here

so you can see pictures and videos of the similar puzzles with a magnetic mechanism.

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 Post subject: Re: SuperZ (2x2 + Skewb)Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:28 am

Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:13 am
Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia
Yes, everything is right. Design of the puzzle was done by Evgeniy,
I found how, which and where magnets should be placed. There was
close collaboration with Evgeniy.

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