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 Post subject: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:16 pm 
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This is the puzzle I hinted at here. It is what you get when you combine the cuts of a regular 3x3 cube and a curvy copter. The puzzle measures 60mm to an edge, making it the same size as a helicopter cube. Turning is surprisingly smooth, considering the number of pieces.

This puzzle can be bought in two parts from my Shapeways shop for a total of $165.
Part 1: http://www.shapeways.com/model/311560/
Part 2: http://www.shapeways.com/model/311562/

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:17 pm 
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Just Beautiful! I will have to order one of these really soon. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:18 pm 
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holy cow! awesome! i'd love to own this.

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Such an amazing puzzle and the size of the (visible) pieces seems pretty extreme when you look at the centers of each face. The turning is even great and *gasp* I think you cut corners with it in the video! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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The puzzle looks fantastic! I love when people combine puzzles and make something entirely new... this is one of my favorites as of now!

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Awesome!! I really like helicopter cube mods and variations! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Wow. Super Puzzle!

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Now thats a puzzle! :) And so smooth too? amazing!

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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absolute madness :)

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:30 am 
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Wow. I've known about this for some time, but I never saw an image of it. I always presumed it was a Curvy Copter with a 3x3x3 with weird proportions so it would easier to design. But wow! This is excellent! I would love to buy one for myself (maybe next year) :wink: .

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:45 am 
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As Palmer says in The Thing, "You have gotta be _____ kidding". A beautiful puzzle, which is screaming out to be mass produced. I want to buy this, but my lottery numbers won't come up. :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:08 am 
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Put this thing on Gelatinbrain now!! Extremely nice puzzle :mrgreen:

Hehe ... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:34 am 
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Wow. Are you kidding me? Amazing.


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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:12 pm 
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Very, very good!

Do helicopter jumbling moves cause any problems for the 3x3 solve? (I'm not talking about bandaging, but about putting the puzzle into unexpected orbits).

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:15 pm 
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Very cool! I like it a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Seeing as there are many small and intricate parts to this puzzle already, I was just wondering as to how hard it would be to design a Curvy Copter Plus + 3x3x3?

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Luke wrote:
Seeing as there are many small and intricate parts to this puzzle already, I was just wondering as to how hard it would be to design a Curvy Copter Plus + 3x3x3?


I believe it is a curvy copter + 3x3.
Look at picture 4

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Robert111 wrote:
Luke wrote:
Seeing as there are many small and intricate parts to this puzzle already, I was just wondering as to how hard it would be to design a Curvy Copter Plus + 3x3x3?


I believe it is a curvy copter + 3x3.
Look at picture 4

Robert

Luke was asking if I could combine the cuts of a Curvy Copter Plus with those of a 3x3. I can take a look and see if it is possible, but it may interfere with the 3x3 mech.

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Put this thing on Gelatinbrain now!! Extremely nice puzzle
I suggested it to Gelatinbrain yesterday and he just added it today :D It is numbered 3.5.4 :D


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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Really a great puzzle!


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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:36 pm 
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wow it looks great! I cant believe how small some of the parts are! nicely done!

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:50 am 
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Try [UR, R2 D2 R2] commutator on that puzzle :) This puzzle allows some interesting flips ...

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:21 am 
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I do not know what is better:
The puzzle or the images.

Both are well done!


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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:05 pm 
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Now, this really something. Great idea and great achievement.
I have wondered always, if you will become one of the famous designers and then I would own the first puzzle casted by you :lol:
Seems that you are getting close :D
And as Andreas has said, great pictures, too!

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:18 am 
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Truly beautiful puzzle.
I am looking forward to getting my Mefferts (TomZ) Curvy Copter soon.
And maybe, just maybe, if we are all really lucky, Mefferts will snap this one up too?
The finish is immaculate too - well done.

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:29 am 
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pirsquared wrote:
Do helicopter jumbling moves cause any problems for the 3x3 solve? (I'm not talking about bandaging, but about putting the puzzle into unexpected orbits).
I'm wondering the same thing. I'm guessing no. I think this puzzle has a number of states which would be the product of the number of states of a normal 3x3x3 and the number of states of a Curvy Copter. You can scramble the 3x3x3 like cuts to get to all the states of a 3x3x3 and from there just treat it like a Curvy Copter to see this. I don't see how you could get to a different 3x3x3 state using just Curvy Copter turns let alone get into an unallowed 3x3x3 state.

I'd love to see the mech of this puzzle. I enjoy seeing two puzzles joined into one like this... especially when they still turn this well. However in this case the union of puzzle A and puzzle B I think its just that. The product of states A and B. I personally prefer the cases where the union of A and B produced something greater then the product of states A and B, at least from a puzzle solving stand point. An example would be the 48 Cube which can be thought of as the union of a 2x2x2 and a 24 Cube. From an engineer/mech stand point though this is right up there and its been pulled off beautifully. Great Job!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:10 pm 
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nice design I love it.

Question.
Does I right? as Carl
Though this puzzle combined 3x3 and helicopter together,
but this thing can't scramble/solve/turn/move both state in moment.

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 Post subject: Re: Copter 3x3
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Very nice. I wish I had $165 too spend on this puzzle... maybe later this year....


all in all this looks very nice

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wow! this is fantastic!

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