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 Post subject: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:48 am 
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Hi!

I've finally finished the puzzle that was started half a year ago :)
The old topic about it: http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=17663

The white Smooth Cast 300 pieces have been dyed with black RIT Powder dye and the result is very nice.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:54 am 
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WOW!! Congratulations on finishing this Timur!!

also, would this be the first time someone dyed smoothcast pieces? It looks really good!

But why not use Onyx if you want black?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Now that's amazingnessation :wink: ! Now if you don't mind I'm off to clean up my brain off the wall :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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I am most impressed at you! Job well done! How stable are the corners during mid rotation? Can we expect to see this on Shapeways sometime?

I assume that like the FTO and Pyraminx Diamond (or Junior FTO), only colors from nonadjacent faces can reside together on a single face? I prefer the four color sticker schemes for that exact reason, LOL!

PS -> Kudos on getting the Vulcano/Tigris produced :D

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Fantastic puzzle. Amazing work, Shim!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Wow, that is just awesome. I've been hoping that this puzzle was physically possible. Great job!


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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Outstanding work.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Wow, amazing! Looks like it functions really well. Definitely looks better when it's all cleaned up and dyed. Nice work!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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That turns amazingly well! Great work, as usual. How did you dye the SmoothCast parts? Did you use the same method as for WSF printed parts?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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This is great! Well done Shim. I hope we'll be seeing this on Shapeways in the future. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Looks to me like the corners are just barely held in! Fantastic work, Timur :)


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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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I simply love this puzzle! I need to ask, is this practical for mass-production? I'd love to own one but cannot afford a custom one. Great job on this puzzle! Great to see it finished (:
by the way, is this a completely different puzzle from the white one, or are they the same puzzle, just this one is dyed??

great job again, sj

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Great job! It turns amazingly well and looks great! Is there a reason why this was casted?-Price, quality, etc...?

Ps. Congratulations on getting the Trignis/Vulcano being produced.

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Great job! It turns amazingly well and looks great! Is there a reason why this was casted?-Price, quality, etc...?

Ps. Congratulations on getting the Trignis/Vulcano being produced.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Fantastic! Congratulations!!
I hope these new puzzles can be available sooner!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Conratulations Shim! Any chance to get that mass-produced or at least at Shapeways?
Wonderful puzzle!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Great! I love it. Your puzzles are always amazing.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Thank everyone for nice feedback!

Sigurd wrote:
But why not use Onyx if you want black?

Unfortunately Onyx was not available at the local distrubutor.
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How stable are the corners during mid rotation?

Actually the corners are the most stable outer pieces, because they are screwed to the inner core.
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Can we expect to see this on Shapeways sometime?

Currently I don't have plans to put this on Shapeways as I think that it will not sell well due to high price.
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How did you dye the SmoothCast parts? Did you use the same method as for WSF printed parts?

Yes, it was exactly the same method - boiling in dye for 20-30 min. I guess the material got a bit softer for the time of boiling, because at 2 pieces (that apparently had air cavities close to the surface) I observed collapsed craters that I had to fill with Apoxie Sculpt. I'm not sure, but boiling might be a good means against sticker bubbling later on.
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is this practical for mass-production?

It might be practical from the mechanical point of view, but I don't expect it would sell like hot cakes due to high solving difficulty. The second is a very important requirement for the puzzle to be mass-produced.
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by the way, is this a completely different puzzle from the white one, or are they the same puzzle, just this one is dyed??

Most of the pieces are the same and some have been recast.
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Is there a reason why this was casted?-Price, quality, etc...? Ps. Congratulations on getting the Trignis/Vulcano being produced.

Thank you. There are relatively many similar parts so it cost me much less being cast (but of course it took more work). As for the quality - 3D printed pieces would have been much more precise and accurate.
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Any chance to get that mass-produced or at least at Shapeways?

I don't mass produce :) This is always a decision of a person who decides to invest in it. The price at Shapeways would be relatively high even without mark-up, I doubt that more than 1 or 2 will be sold there.

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Timur wrote:
The price at Shapeways would be relatively high even without mark-up, I doubt that more than 1 or 2 will be sold there.


So give it a try, you got nothing to loss.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Sharon wrote:
Timur wrote:
The price at Shapeways would be relatively high even without mark-up, I doubt that more than 1 or 2 will be sold there.


So give it a try, you got nothing to loss.


Totally agreed!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Sharon wrote:
Timur wrote:
The price at Shapeways would be relatively high even without mark-up, I doubt that more than 1 or 2 will be sold there.


So give it a try, you got nothing to loss.


Totally agreed!


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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Looks awesome! How durable is it?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Face Turning Octahedron (finished)
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Timur, EXCEPTIONAL!

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