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 Post subject: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:42 am 
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This year was a little different for me to previous years and I didn't take anything completely new to Cube Day. However I did take some (not the six layer) of these. Although one was entered for the IPP competition I hadn't previously mentioned them here since I wanted them to be new to most people attending the event.
Three resemble the commonly made three layer Pucks transformation. However mine are quite different and a lot harder. You can pretty much see from the video how they work. The most significant factor is that the symbols / numbers are often hidden when the puzzle is scrambled. This means you have to search for the correct piece before putting it in place.
I have been working on this puzzle sporadically for many years and even showed Rich Kitchen a prototype back in 2008. At that stage the puzzle was called 3 1/2 Pucks since that is what it resembled. I had the basic sliding principle worked out but the problem was how to stop pieces falling out at the ends when a slide is made. I tried various methods but most seemed ugly or not fully functional. Finally I figured it out and the photos and video show my final designs. I will upload a separate video showing the six layer one later. Thanks to Frank for his testing and feedback.
As usual all transformation work was done by hand though the clear semi circular disks were purchased.
Because of the rarity of Pucks I was only able to make three or four of each and just one of the six layer.
Those expecting an email will get one in a day or two.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:05 am 
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Similiar idea to the Diogenes puzzle that I made many years ago following a description in one of David Singmaster's Cubic Circulars.
Geert posted a photo of the one I made for him after the DCD 2008. Tony showed me photos of his these puck puzzles later.

Good puzzles to solve.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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Amazing! :shock:

Nice idea :)

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:16 am 
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FINALLY I know what that "not yet revealed" puzzle is on your website is!
That was bugging me for ages. :evil:


I dont think I've ever seen a puck modification. EDIT: Except maybe your puck-a-ball mod... I forgot about that one. :oops:
Good Work.

How hard are they to solve? Or have you not even attempted yet...


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: I've attempted it once upon a time. Had I known whose it was at the time it might not have ever gotten back to him. How difficult? Oh dear, there is a thread about difficulty levels somewhere in this forum :lol:

Given enough time, it would have been solvable (for me, a few days I would guess) We were given one of the rainbow colored ones to play with and the hardest part for me was remembering where I had just slid a number to.

I love it! That's all I really want to say. Nice Puzzle Tony!

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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Really cool idea. :D Is there anything to stop the top/bottom pucks from falling out when the pucks are interchanged?

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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I really wish my school's internet was configured to let me watch the video! :lol:

Amazing work!

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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Incredible Tony! This is another one for mass production! Although I'm not too kean on the colour schemes, I'd still like to it mass produced!

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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Amazing! One of the truly awe-inspiring puzzles that I have seen. I believe that this is one for mass-production, but would not know how hard/easy it would be to produce.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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Awesome! I saw this in the IPP list, but didn't realize it was you! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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So cool!! Tony, you just reminded me why you are my favorite custom puzzle designer, keep it up :D

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We were given one of the rainbow colored ones to play with


LUCKY! Please tell the other part of that "we" was someone whos last name rhymes with Beffert... I would love to get my hands on one of these :D


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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Incredible Tony! This is another one for mass production! Although I'm not too kean on the colour schemes, I'd still like to it mass produced!


Thanks. My style of puzzle making means I have to make do with what's available to me. The designs were the best I could come up with from a box of Pucks. Smiley faces, Union Jacks and Canadian Hockey players would have looked a lot worse.


PepeLopez07,
I think katsmom is referring to the IPP puzzle competition

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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APJ wrote:
Really cool idea. :D Is there anything to stop the top/bottom pucks from falling out when the pucks are interchanged?

Alex

The clear plastic stops them from moving.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:18 am 
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Similiar idea to the Diogenes puzzle that I made many years ago following a description in one of David Singmaster's Cubic Circulars.
Geert posted a photo of the one I made for him after the DCD 2008. Tony showed me photos of his these puck puzzles later.

Good puzzles to solve.

Anthony


It has been brought to my attention that because of my posting previously that I am implying that Tony is copying another puzzle - the Diogenes, and that I am claiming to be the first to have made it.
This is MOST CERTAINLY not the case. Tony knows full well that I would never imply anything like that, I have always been in awe of his creations/transformations, AND, his bottomless source of inspiration, invention workmanship etc. when it comes to his creations.

I just made, what I thought was an innocent posting.

If I have offended anyone please accept my apologies.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:23 am 
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Anthony wrote:
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Similiar idea to the Diogenes puzzle that I made many years ago following a description in one of David Singmaster's Cubic Circulars.
Geert posted a photo of the one I made for him after the DCD 2008. Tony showed me photos of his these puck puzzles later.

Good puzzles to solve.

Anthony


It has been brought to my attention that because of my posting previously that I am implying that Tony is copying another puzzle - the Diogenes, and that I am claiming to be the first to have made it.
This is MOST CERTAINLY not the case. Tony knows full well that I would never imply anything like that, I have always been in awe of his creations/transformations, AND, his bottomless source of inspiration, invention workmanship etc. when it comes to his creations.

I just made, what I thought was an innocent posting.

If I have offended anyone please accept my apologies.

Anthony


I knew exactly what you meant. The only thing that annoys me slightly was no cake at Cube Day!! I travelled half way across Holland for a delicious slice. Had to spend my day with puzzle people instead. What a let down.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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Tony, have you considered a layer-3 one which both slides and flips?


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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Wow, I really like this concept! It reminds me of a Cryptex :D I have to ask, though, does the puzzle slide in only one direction?

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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Monopoly wrote:
Wow, I really like this concept! It reminds me of a Cryptex :D I have to ask, though, does the puzzle slide in only one direction?


Yes just one direction.

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I've seen this earlier today and I think its awesome! :D Do you plan on mass producing it?

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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If the clear plastic is used to prevent pieces coming out when you slide the puzzle, couldn't you have just made the black center circle bigger, and that should block the pieces from coming out?

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
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SEBUVER wrote:
If the clear plastic is used to prevent pieces coming out when you slide the puzzle, couldn't you have just made the black center circle bigger, and that should block the pieces from coming out?


No, I experimented quite a bit and any looseness caused problems when attempting to slide it length ways. Covering part of the pattern also looked bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Fisher's Sliding Pucks
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:47 am 
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I never cease to amazed by your ideas.

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