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 Post subject: Holey Skewb on Mefferts avalible to buy!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:03 am 
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PURCHASE NOW AT:

Black: http://sites.webec.com.hk/meffert2/inde ... roduct=424
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Both: http://sites.webec.com.hk/meffert2/inde ... roduct=426

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I got that same email!!!

I just ordered mine!


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Yay! Now I just want the white to come out and then I can do an epic order!

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I've received my black Holey Skewb yesterday. 11 days between order and delivery from Hongkong to Germany, that is really fast.
I like the design and the stickers. :)
After applying a few drops of silicone spray, it turns very smoothly.
Thanks to Uwe and Tony! :D

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Can we please know the mehcanism now? :)

Does it resemble the Void Cube or the Holey Megaminx? Or something else?

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Doubleyou wrote:
Can we please know the mehcanism now? :)

Does it resemble the Void Cube or the Holey Megaminx? Or something else?


It's Tony's Void Skewb mechanism, isn't it? Haven't you seen it before?

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It's Tony's mechanism, kind of like a shutter on a camera. you can't see it, then you can. a ball with holes in the middle.

Oh, I've done a lousy job describing it. Maybe Tony can do better! Or then again, maybe not....:lol: :lol:

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Tony's mechanism is on his website. His technique could also be used in building Void Helicopter Cubes, or Void Rhombic Dodecahedron 3x3x3s. (If anyone makes them, I'll be sueing you!) :)

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 Post subject: Re: Holey Skewb on Mefferts avalible to buy!
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I see (through it!) :D why didn't I check his website before!

I like Oskar's Dovetail mechanism way better then! With regular corners, that would make a real Void Skewb...

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White ones now avalible :scrambled:

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Doubleyou wrote:
I see (through it!) :D why didn't I check his website before!

I like Oskar's Dovetail mechanism way better then! With regular corners, that would make a real Void Skewb...


This statement makes no sense to me. Please show a diagram of this "real" Void Skewb you are talking about.

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Pictures of the mechanism from Tony's website.


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That's a really cool idea. You could make a 3x3x3 with void edges :D

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Tony Fisher wrote:
Doubleyou wrote:
I see (through it!) :D why didn't I check his website before!

I like Oskar's Dovetail mechanism way better then! With regular corners, that would make a real Void Skewb...


This statement makes no sense to me. Please show a diagram of this "real" Void Skewb you are talking about.


I hope this makes sense. totally (almost) missing center (Edge piece of the skewb mechanism). And NO core. like the void Cube.

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He means Oskar's Minimal Twist puzzle.

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SEBUVER wrote:
He means Oskar's Minimal Twist puzzle.


yes he does... erhm, I mean Yes I do.

Tony, dont you see my point? I want a bigger hole, thats all

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Considering the fact that this was made by hand I think you're pushing it on how big you want the hole. The mechanism that Tony uses could be used to make a bigger hole, but by hand I think you have to appreciate that.

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No one said that it has to be made by hand...

The new version can be made using 3D program (Solidworks)

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I'd be worried if the mass produced versions were made by hand! :?

Personally, I prefer this version being mass produced. That is one major problem with 3D design and printing - everything is so easy. People can design 9x9x9s in minutes, where as hand designed puzzles are actually quite an accomplishment. And that's me done on this rant!

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I COMPLETELY agree! and I want to edit my point of view! I dont like either Tony's or Oskar's better.
they both have a great deal of originality and awe-effect! It was so amazing Tony made his by hand, I will never forget

But for a mass production puzzle, I would prefer Oskar's puzzle in cube form

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Doubleyou wrote:
I COMPLETELY agree! and I want to edit my point of view! I dont like either Tony's or Oskar's better.
they both have a great deal of originality and awe-effect! It was so amazing Tony made his by hand, I will never forget

But for a mass production puzzle, I would prefer Oskar's puzzle in cube form


That's fine but it was your reference to a "real" Void Skewb I didn't understand. Mine is a Void Skewb since it has a void and that's what I called it. Some people argue it shouldn't have squares at all. You argued it should have squares but with bigger holes than mine and no visible core. It all gets a bit random and pointless in my opinion.
Anyway, lets not forget that this is being sold as a Holey Skewb to avoid any confusion with the Void Cube.
For the record I too would prefer a Cube version of Oskar's providing it had perfect Skewb like movement and stability.

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Tony Fisher wrote:
Doubleyou wrote:
I COMPLETELY agree! and I want to edit my point of view! I dont like either Tony's or Oskar's better.
they both have a great deal of originality and awe-effect! It was so amazing Tony made his by hand, I will never forget

But for a mass production puzzle, I would prefer Oskar's puzzle in cube form


That's fine but it was your reference to a "real" Void Skewb I didn't understand. Mine is a Void Skewb since it has a void and that's what I called it. Some people argue it shouldn't have squares at all. You argued it should have squares but with bigger holes than mine and no visible core. It all gets a bit random and pointless in my opinion.
Anyway, lets not forget that this is being sold as a Holey Skewb to avoid any confusion with the Void Cube.
For the record I too would prefer a Cube version of Oskar's providing it had perfect Skewb like movement and stability.


Sorry that my suggestions seems random!
I actually forgot you named it Void Skewb when you created it. when I said "real" void skewb, I was thinking about the Void Cube, which has no center at all. Not just a hole in the center cap. (you know this, I am just pointing out)

Ideally The Void Skewb should have no center (edge) at all IMO. But how is that even possible? maybe it is, but I dont see a solution. Using the dovetail mechanism, would not allow this as it is. It will still show part of the edge piece (hence the "bigger hole" I mentioned).

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Can anyone make photos of the mechanism of the mass-produced one?

Thanks!

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I will try and post photos for you of the mechanism.

Just got mine yesterday! The puzzle turns very well! Does anybody else hear a weird sound sometimes while turning?

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Doubleyou wrote:
Ideally The Void Skewb should have no center (edge) at all IMO. But how is that even possible? maybe it is, but I dont see a solution. Using the dovetail mechanism, would not allow this as it is. It will still show part of the edge piece (hence the "bigger hole" I mentioned).
Ideally, the void skewb should be missing 4 corners.

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Ideally The Void Skewb should have no center (edge) at all IMO. But how is that even possible? maybe it is, but I dont see a solution. Using the dovetail mechanism, would not allow this as it is. It will still show part of the edge piece (hence the "bigger hole" I mentioned).
Ideally, the void skewb should be missing 4 corners.

In Your Opinion, yes.

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theVDude wrote:
Ideally, the void skewb should be missing 4 corners.


That's what I mean by random. Ideally it should be yellow with pictures of elephants.

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Ideally, It should be missing four corners.

Considering Okamoto made the first "void" any puzzle, the call would be on him, but you can infer from his the Void Cube that any puzzle "voided" would be missing what is commonly accepted as the core pieces.

Holey Skewb is a very fitting name for this particular Skewb, but a Void Skewb would be missing the four corners.

A much more fitting name for the Holey Megaminx would be Void Megaminx, judging by original "voided" puzzle the Void Cube.

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Considering Okamoto made the first "void" any puzzle, the call would be on him, but you can infer from his the Void Cube that any puzzle "voided" would be missing what is commonly accepted as the core pieces.


I think that's infering a bit much. First the "core" piece of a 3x3x3 in just that... the inner 1x1x1 at the center. Okamoto's puzzle is missing that in addition to the face pieces. Considering the name I think it's been commonly used to mean a puzzle with a void in it.

But if you go in the direction you are thinking... which 4 corners would you remove? There are 2 sets of 4 corners that behave is if they are attached to a centeral core and without taking the puzzle apart you can't tell which 4 they are. At a funtamental level they are equivalent as a Skewb does have two "virtual" cores. So even if I accepted the definition you infered I'd be inclined to drop all 8 corners... make it a face turn puzzle... and call it a Void Skewb Diamond.

But I could be talked into agreeing with this set of definitions:

Holey = Holes have been placed through existing pieces but those pieces haven't been removed from the puzzle.
i.e. solving a Holey Skewb is equivalent to solving a Skewb

Void = Pieces of the puzzle have been removed and replaced with a void. i.e. solving a Void Cube is NOT equivalent to solving a 3x3x3.

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