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 Post subject: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:03 am 
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简单介绍:三年前就有制作“Crazy 3x3”的想法,后来看到在这论坛里已经被人制出,于是尝试设计复原难度更大的Crazy 3x3 plus cube ,三个月前已经开了模具,由于等待专利受理需要时间,所以今天才公布这款魔方。

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:05 am 
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do want...
any place to order yet?

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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I'm a little confused as to why one is called neptune and the other mercury. Are they any different?

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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Anyone else find it weird that the white face doesn't behave like a normal circle cube? Is this intentional and is it like that on every face but that one just happens to stick more?

*edit* the other faces do it too

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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Yeah the google translate says
"A brief introduction: Three years ago, have produced "Crazy 3x3" idea, then see this forum has been out of the system, so try to design more difficult to recover Crazy 3x3 plus cube, three months ago has opened the mold , because it takes time to wait for patent pending, so today released until this Rubik's Cube."
So i asume it is harder somehow. Perhaps it is more like gelatinbrain 3.1.15 than a normal circle cube

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:26 am 
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plus加强版的设计:圆圈内的块跟着表层转动(用1来表示),圆圈内的块是不跟表层转动(用0来表示)。

6个面中0与1转动方式能组合成8款不同玩法的Crazy 3x3 plus,它们的解法与复原难度是不一样的。
为了方便讨论,我用“8大行星”来表示:


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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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下一个产品预告:

Crazy Megaminx plus


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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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So true. Those extra pictures help. Hmm, what a sneaky way to make people buy 8 variations of a puzzle :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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Please stop with the "hidden" bandaging.

Just sell regular crazy 3x3's and regular crazy megaminxi(?)

The hidden bandaging makes the puzzles (much like the crazy 3x3x2) very unenjoyable to solve, not because they're difficult, but because it's an "unnatural" puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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:shock: Oh WOW 8 different versions that all sove slightly differently.
P.S i see poor pluto get's shafted yet again. Not only is it no longer concidered a planet it doesn't get a puzzle named after it :lol:

:shock: AHHHH and a megaminx!!!! how on earth are you making so manny new awesome puzzles.

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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Can't wait :) ! Will there be crazy 3x3x3:
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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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Ohh... so confusing. Will these all be on sale? I would like to own them.

Any plans to sell the third Crazy 4x4 or the Crazy Tetrahedron?

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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Daqing Bao is a famous modder in China.
He specializes in the cube mechanism, and he has many great original works especially his crazy series.
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他主要研究各种魔方结构,有过很多优秀原创作品,尤其以魔中魔系列见长。


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Very pleased to see you and your cubes here.
Wish to buy one or two someday :)
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很高兴能在这边看到你和你的新作。
啥时候上市啊,希望能买两个,呵呵。

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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OK! very good!

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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I also want the regular circle 3x3x3 and regular circle megaminx. I think Daqing Bao didn't talk about them because he was trying to avoid some patent/moral issues. I guess if one gets the any of the "plus" puzzle, he can simply add or remove some locking pieces to make it a regular circle puzzle. Is it right, Daqing?

我也想要普通的3x3魔中魔或者五魔方魔中魔。我觉得大烟头没说那些东西只是因为他想避免一些专利或者道德问题。不过我猜拿到了这类加强版的魔方能改成普通的魔中魔,只要添加或者去掉几个锁定块就行。大烟头,对么?


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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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new 3x3 mods look great, but did everyone miss the circle tetrahedron as well as the circle 4x4?

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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interesting.... :roll:
I wonder if there's a chance of a regular one. :?


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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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I just want to buy a normal Crazy 3x3x3. I've been waiting for one ever since the circle puzzles became available.

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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I don't get it. :?:

Why offer bandaged variations before the original idea (regular Circle 3x3x3, regular Circle Megaminx) is widely available?

What does Aleh have to say about this?

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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I'll probably be ordering one of these to see if I can unbandage it.

He made the circle tetrahedron a while ago, but it's another puzzle I like.

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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he said that he designed the crazy 3x3 plus because someone else have already made one on this forum. he wants all of his creations to be unique.

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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WOOOW!!! Fantastic!!! This is realy a must have to any kind of collection.
When I can buy some of these beauty? :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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he said that he designed the crazy 3x3 plus because someone else have already made one on this forum. he wants all of his creations to be unique.
I understand wanting to be unique, but in this case it feels like an ice cream store that offers only mint chocolate and bubblegum flavors because someone "has already made vanilla." Five people want bubblegum ice cream. Eight million people want vanilla.

There's no patent on these puzzles, so there's no legal issue, and I can't imagine Aleh having a huge problem with it if he was asked. So I declare that Daqing Bao and Aleh have a full-on, Obama-style beer summit (Red Stripe mandatory for at least one participant), make kissy-face, and give us all the puzzles we want: The Circle 3x3x3 and the Circle Megaminx, with no bandaging. Problem solved.

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Amazing! They look of fantastic quality and the crazy megaminx makes me speechless! :D

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Wow, those are amazing. They must be almost impossible to solve though.

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I would imagine these would be pretty tough, trying to get around some faces moving and others not moving.

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Daqing Bao wrote:
简单介绍:三年前就有制作“Crazy 3x3”的想法,后来看到在这论坛里已经被人制出,于是尝试设计复原难度更大的Crazy 3x3 plus cube ,三个月前已经开了模具,由于等待专利受理需要时间,所以今天才公布这款魔方。

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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I think it's more realistic for me to buy one of them, and then make it to a regular one. :)

烟头,弄成标准的应该不难吧,去掉几个捆绑块是不是就行了?


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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
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回答几个问题:
1、Crazy 3x3 plus 的结构设计没有捆绑角块或棱块。
2、Crazy 3x3 plus 的零件是可以组装成Crazy 3x3。
3、Crazy 3x3的转法相当于有中块色向变化的图案三阶,Crazy 3x3 plus 的变化很复杂了,很难破解。Crazy 3x3与Crazy 3x3 plus 是两种不同性质的魔方。

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Wow, those are amazing. They must be almost impossible to solve though.


If a puzzle is in it's solved position, and then you scramble it, then pretty much it is possible to solve. :wink: (Reversing moves or a method). :mrgreen:

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Can't wait :) ! Will there be crazy 3x3x3:
You can mod them into one or buy multiple and frankienstine them.

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That's probably a "1".

Daqing Bao wrote:
回答几个问题:
1、Crazy 3x3 plus 的结构设计没有捆绑角块或棱块。
2、Crazy 3x3 plus 的零件是可以组装成Crazy 3x3。
3、Crazy 3x3的转法相当于有中块色向变化的图案三阶,Crazy 3x3 plus 的变化很复杂了,很难破解。Crazy 3x3与Crazy 3x3 plus 是两种不同性质的魔方。

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Answering several questions:
1. Crazy 3x3 plus' structure do not have any bangaged corners or edges.
2. Crazy 3x3 plus' pieces can be re-assembled into a Crazy 3x3
3. The method to solve a Crazy 3x3 is equaled to that of a 3x3 with turning centers. The variable of Crazy 3x3 plus is very complicated. It's very hard to solve. Crazy 3x3 and Crazy 3x3 plus are two different types of puzzles.


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2. Crazy 3x3 plus' pieces can be re-assembled into a Crazy 3x3


That's fantastic. I'll be buying one of these as soon as possible, in that case.


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That's probably a "1".

Exactly. That one is a stationary one. Look at the numbering system for the cubes, it's pretty easy to figure out.

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I just wanted to make sure for refference.

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So the crazy megaminx plus is out there for purchase? where???


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So the crazy megaminx plus is out there for purchase? where???

Not yet. That's their next product.


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This is now !
they've just been added on mf8's web shop.

So, I can't afford all of them. Which one should I choose ?


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Oh LOL,
I was hoping the Megaminx be there but just the 3x3's. :lol:

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What's up with 'out of stock'?


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They've probably just added them to the shop before they have them, like Cube4You's gas assissted 3x3x3.

I'm pretty tempted to save up and buy all of them, along with another 2 so I could hybrid them together to get a normal circle 3x3x3.

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I wonder what I should order if I am going to assemble it as a regular circle 3x3x3. Any one of them?


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schuma wrote:
I wonder what I should order if I am going to assemble it as a regular circle 3x3x3. Any one of them?


I'd say Mercury and Uranus, as on Mercury the only circle that goes with the side is white, whereas on Uranus it doesn't, so yoy could just swap the white sides over.

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schuma wrote:
I wonder what I should order if I am going to assemble it as a regular circle 3x3x3. Any one of them?


I'd say Mercury and Uranus, as on Mercury the only circle that goes with the side is white, whereas on Uranus it doesn't, so yoy could just swap the white sides over.

I want somebody to mass-produce a normal crazy 3x3x3. :( I don't want to have to buy 2 cubes to make one and so I won't. :(

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:49 am 
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2. Crazy 3x3 plus' pieces can be re-assembled into a Crazy 3x3


I may be wrong for assuming, but where does it say that someone has to purchase two Crazy 3x3 Plus to make one regular crazy 3x3?

My guess is that the center piece has some sort of a blocking/bandaging piece, like the little triangular piece that clicks into a corner and connects to an edge on the crazy 2x3x3. My assumption (and again, it's only an assumption) is that the blocking device can be easily removed. Daqing Bao's response seems to imply that any Crazy 3x3 Plus can be made into an ordinary Crazy 3x3.

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:08 pm 
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So if I follow you, I just need to buy the most "blocked" one ( for example Jupiter) and I can remove blocking pieces as I want.


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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:15 pm 
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PaulWozniak wrote:
beachboy wrote:

2. Crazy 3x3 plus' pieces can be re-assembled into a Crazy 3x3


I may be wrong for assuming, but where does it say that someone has to purchase two Crazy 3x3 Plus to make one regular crazy 3x3?

My guess is that the center piece has some sort of a blocking/bandaging piece, like the little triangular piece that clicks into a corner and connects to an edge on the crazy 2x3x3. My assumption (and again, it's only an assumption) is that the blocking device can be easily removed. Daqing Bao's response seems to imply that any Crazy 3x3 Plus can be made into an ordinary Crazy 3x3.

I believe that the 2. is simply a list :) Also, can someone please post a link to the mf8 shop? For some reason I can't find it.....

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:16 pm 
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Actually I also assume that only one crazy 3x3 plus is required to make a regular crazy 3x3.
But it will then be weird that why MF8 need to produce 8 types of crazy 3x3 plus when we only need to buy the most 'blocked' one and re-assemable it into different types of crazy 3x3 plus.
And also Daqing Bao's response is quite confusing that there are no numbers or types of crazy 3x3 plus or other informations involving in the sentense. So I just translate the sentense directly without my own opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:21 pm 
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Everyone calling a circle cube or circle 3x3x3 a crazy 3x3x3 is, well, driving me CRAZY.

I'll be purchasing a mercury. It may be that they aren't able to be easily adapted, in which case I'll just break the bandaging and have a circle cube.

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 Post subject: Re: (mf8+DaYan)-Crazy 3x3 plus cube
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:24 pm 
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theVDude wrote:
I'll be purchasing a mercury. It may be that they aren't able to be easily adapted, in which case I'll just break the bandaging and have a circle cube.

I don't see how just breaking the bandaging could give you a Circle Cube... It would seem that with any of these cube models, you would need to break but also make bandagings. (Sorry for the weird plural form, but bandages doesn't seem right either. Makes me think of something else.)

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