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 Post subject: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:37 pm 
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I finished my first three Master Platonic Solids.

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Video of the Master Icosahedron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ZYTMY1sjE

Video of the Master Cube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY2FxohyByE

The missing two will follow.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:41 pm 
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super square 1!?!?!

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oh i see it now, very nice mod!


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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:54 pm 
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Is the core puzzle a Masterball?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:54 pm 
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Great work Claus!

You're the master of the Masterball mod!


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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:06 pm 
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:shock: :D That look great!!! I don't even have a masterball... :oops: Where do you get one? :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:24 am 
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Thats really cool!
I have never touched a Masterball for modding. Maybe I should...


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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:30 pm 
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I finished the Master cube. First built by Eitan!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:08 am 
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Thanks for the citation. They look great, but I think you got a little over-zealous with the sanding for the fillets on the cube!

Be careful when turning the cube. The force you will apply to turn it will be farther out from the original turning plane. Thus, there will be a longer lever arm, and more torque away from the turning plane. This makes it more likely to become derailed from the internal mech!

I can't wait to see a tetrahedron! That's going to be a huge puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:22 am 
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Cool again.
Now, two platonics are left. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:50 am 
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I don't believe the Masterball can jumble but watching these videos made me realize that it should be able to jumble. It looks like you should be able to turn one of the cuts that goes through the poles by 90 degrees and then be able turn through the cut at the equator. I thought puzzles that jumbled pretty much jumbled unless something was added to the mech which prevended it. I not familiar with the Masterball mech... any ideas why it doesn't jumble? Or could it easily be modded to allow jumbling?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:52 pm 
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wwwmwww wrote:
It looks like you should be able to turn one of on the cuts that goes through the poles by 90 degrees and then be able turn through the cut at the equator.

If you ever get a chance to try out a masterball, you will understand almost immediately why this move won't work. It looks like it is possible, but it is not.

Try this: Think about a 2x2x4. It has the same kinds of cuts as a masterball, except it doesn't have the diagonal cuts on the top and bottom faces. If the 2x2x4 is fully-functional, then you can make any 90-degree turn at any time. The masterball puzzle is like a 2x2x4 where only 180-degree turns are allowed on the vertical cuts.

The reason for this is that the internal mechanism is actually simply a puck puzzle with 8 sections that are shaped like orange slices, which stretch from the top to the bottom of the puzzle. The latitudinal rings on the masterball are formed by tiles that slide around in tracks that are carved into these 8 sections. Since each "orange slice" is solid, from pole to pole of the masterball, it cannot make the turn you described above.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:09 pm 
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It's interesting that you mentioned a 2x2x4. I think it's possible to mod a 2x2x4 so it superficially looks like an octahedral Masterball.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
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Please may I ask where do you obtain so many masterballs??? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
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These are awesome. However I don't understand one thing. The Masterball can also be turned after a 45° degree turn of one of the 4 slices right? So the cube could change its shape couldn't it?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:52 pm 
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alaskajoe wrote:
These are awesome. However I don't understand one thing. The Masterball can also be turned after a 45° degree turn of one of the 4 slices right? So the cube could change its shape couldn't it?
Yeah, it should.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
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Absolutely. All those puzzles in the first post change shape. The only one that doesn't is the original masterball.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Platonic Solids (now with Cube video)
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When I get home I'm going to model a tetrahedron with the masterball cuts and play with it a bit. I can't imagine it in my head right now, but I sorta can, you know?

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