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 Post subject: Master Dino Cube (Finished!)
PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:45 pm 
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Most of you already know that my track record with V1 puzzles is not good. In fact, the past two puzzles i've created before this one are very expensive paperweights, and are awaiting a complete revision. So I am pleased to inform everyone, that I finally made a V1 puzzle that isn't a complete and total failure! Hopefully my other secret puzzles will be fixed soon and I will have some more puzzles to show you.

A more detailed thread will come later. Right now this puzzle is being mailed to Drew for stickers, pictures, and a video. Stay tuned.

Also, I am requesting that people refer to this puzzle as a Master Dino Cube, and not a Lattice cube.

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This puzzle is now finished, click here.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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Regardless of v1 s previously Im sure many people would still kill for those.It looks awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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Are you going to put it on http://www.bedardpuzzles.com? I mean version 2.0. God I hope!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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Finally!

I've been waiting for this puzzle to be built for a long time.

And I too would love to see it on Bedardpuzzles, though I doubt I'd have the funds to purchase it.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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No, it will not be on my website.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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I was actually biginning to design this... :(
You beat me too it...
It looks really good though!
Can't wait to see it stickered and a video.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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Benzini wrote:
I was actually biginning to design this... :(
You beat me too it...
It looks really good though!
Can't wait to see it stickered and a video.

its already been made

this looks really cool


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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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eye2eye wrote:
Benzini wrote:
I was actually biginning to design this... :(
You beat me too it...
It looks really good though!
Can't wait to see it stickered and a video.

its already been made

this looks really cool


I am well aware that it has already been made.
My logic was, there are many standard (one of a kind) puzzles such as the Skewb that have been mass produced and are now being expanded into higher order cubes. It occured to me that the Dino Cube has been in the dark with all these expansions. Therefore, I began designing one to get a head start, but it appears that I am behind on the times...

O well.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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I am not sure but it sure looks like a 2x3x7 to me :roll: :o


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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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Or, a pile of blocks that could be a for any puzzle. When I hurd that the kiss cubes were going rare I made a pile like that from a cut down corner.

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2 slim towers and a domino?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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Psh, I bet it's 7 1x2x3s.

As for the puzzle, why do you prefer that we refer to it as Master Dino and not Lattice cube? Is it because you built it and not Okamoto? It looks great btw.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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PotatoSpades22095 wrote:
Psh, I bet it's 7 1x2x3s.




actually i think your right

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I count nine.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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If you count the 2 near the front. That's kinda what gave me the hint because I saw the screw there, and I wondered what that could be, figured it was 2 1x2x3s, then saw the ones in the back and assumed the same thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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scott needs to log in and tell us

this is driving me crazy!

lol

cant wait to see that master dino

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I'd put money on it that those are 1x2x3's, remember the long waiting list on bedardpuzzles for them? And they do look like 1x2x3s also, I think potatospades is right

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Coming Soon)
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Well that definitely is a more logical answer (1x2x3's) in fact if you look at it as a 2x3x7 it looks quite messy and not very stable, yet once again he has said most his V1's were unsuccessfull large paperwieghts. however noting the size of the screwdriver i would guess it is quite small, giving more reasoning to the 1x2x3. Also by the looks of it the master dino cube looks to be a nice comfortable size :D


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Actually, had I zoomed out of this picture further you would end up seeing a couple of new puzzles which I am not ready to show everyone yet. But to answer your question, there are on my desk way more 1x2x3s then I care to count again. I think I have like half of the waiting list on my desk, I just haven't stickered them yet.

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Finito!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Finished!)
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may i be the first to say that the finished product looks great :D

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Finished!)
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:shock: Im glad to be one of the first to see this finished, it looks phenominal, i cant wait to try to make one of these by hand.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Finished!)
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Wow. So you use a pairing-up-method and than solve like a dino cube. I solved that puzzle two or three times on the computer and I always solved the inner rainbow cube and than went on for the outer corners. I never got less than 16 minutes I think it was. Your first solve was way faster. Seems to be the better method. Thumbs up!
On the built too of course! It obviously turns really well.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Finished!)
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Very nice, it just looks brilliant, very nice and clean! turning is like butter too, truly a great job ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Finished!)
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Great! So whos planning to make a Royal Dino Cube :P

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Amazing job! Nice work Scott.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Finished!)
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:shock: That is B-E-A-Utiful! :shock:

*A little off topic...

I actually prefer the name Master Dino for this puzzle. I would consider that to be the standard. Lattice Cube is just what Okamoto decided to call it.

I find that there are two different views on naming puzzles. Some people seem to be against calling the same puzzle something different. Whereas others think that no one else should use the name they chose for their puzzle...even if someone else makes an identical puzzle. I think people should be able to use any name they want...even it it's taken.

...back on topic.*

This is one of my favorite puzzles, and you did an unbelievable job on it. Great work, Scott! Congrats!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Finished!)
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Well done, Scott!


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Beautiful work!

silly question though... what is the difference between a Master Dino and a Master Skewb?


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Derek Bosch wrote:
silly question though... what is the difference between a Master Dino and a Master Skewb?

Big difference, look at the two closely together.
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Wow!!! Nice! I noticed from the video and this picture that it looks like it should also be able to move like a normal Skewb. I assume it can't as that wouldn't be called a Master Dino Cube I don't think. But I'm curious has that puzzle been named? Add the functionality of a normal Skewb to this and what would it be called? I doubt I'm the first to think of this possibility.

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Do you mean a puzzle that looks and functions exactly like a Master Dino except it can also turn like a Skewb? If so, then no...that has not been made or named. I would name it...something like...Master Dino Skewb or Skewb Master Dino. Just so people know exactly what it is and how it functions.

The difference between the Master Dino and the Master Skewb is that the Master Skewb is cut deeper so that each turn, first layer and second layer, takes three additional corners with the corner that was turned. That probably sounds a little confusing, but that's how it works.

Watch these two videos to see the difference in functionality. Master Skewb vs Master Dino.

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Thanks for clearing my confusion....
I obviously need more coffee before posting...


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Do you mean a puzzle that looks and functions exactly like a Master Dino except it can also turn like a Skewb? If so, then no...that has not been made or named.


Yes, that is what I meant. It just looks like the next logical step from this puzzle. I figured there would be a Java version of it named somewhere by now even if that puzzle hadn't yet been physically constructed.

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Great work on this puzzle! How is the size compared to a Rainbow Cube? Did you use one as a base of sorts?

(Maybe this + Skewb could be called a Lattiskewb if it's ever made?)


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Awesome! Was this the $200 project you were referring to not too long ago?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Dino Cube (Finished!)
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Nope, that is something else. Hopefully I will get around to finishing that soon.

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