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 Post subject: Okamoto Gallery
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:51 pm 
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Today I received my Void Cube from Torito. Great toy! But this post is not about Void Cube. It is about the leaflet I found in the same package from Torito: one with 8 great puzzles under what they call Okamoto Gallery:
1. Floppy Cube (1x3x3)
2. Magic Domino (2x3x3)
3. Delta Cube
4. Lattice Cube
5. Mental Pillow
6. Leaflet dodecahedron
7. Trajber octahedron
8. Dino Octa

As I don't understand Japanese, I am wondering what would the purpose of this gallery be? Do they advertise puzzles that are going to be produced and sold in the near future? Sure hope so. Anybody else got the leaflet? Anybody that can read the whole thing?

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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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In fact, the Japanese in the booklet says nothing about the purpose of the gallery, maybe they just list the puzzles there to show the ingeniousness of Mr. Okamoto.


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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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Hidetoshi wrote:
Draconic wrote:
It appears that there is a Floppy Cube in that phamplet. Does that mean there could possbily be a release of them?


There are only listed his works.
Then perhaps it is not planned list, because there are some other corp's patent cubes.

The pamphlet is a little strange, one quarter is Void cube's explanation, but three quarters are Mr.Okamoto's explanation. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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I also take a look at this booklet, it's very interesting. I think that it would be possible that we could see these puzzles mass produced. If the company see they got good sale with the void cube, why wouldn't they produce an other one...


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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:23 am 
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can any one scan the booklet ?

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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:25 am 
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There's one in this thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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Georges wrote:
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Is there inside the box a catalogue with more okamoto puzzles?


Attached a scan of the leaflet.


in the thread http://www.twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11234


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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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if any of these is to be mass produced, it MUST be the Dino Octa !!!

WHY ?

Because it is one of the very few natural generalization of Rubik's cube.

There are only 5 regular polyhedra : the tetrahedron (4 triangles) , the hexahedron (cube) (6 squares), the octahedron (8 triangles), the dodecahedron (12 pentagones) and the icosahedron (20 triangles).

The natural generalizations of Rubik 3x3x3 cube are

tetrahedron : Halpern-Meier pyramid
hexahedron : Rubik's cube
octahedron : Dino Octa
dodecahedron : Megaminx
icosahedron : no proposal so far....

In what sense are these "natural" generalizations ?
Each of these puzzles is a face turning puzzle and it has a center piece that is of the same shape as the whole face.
The number of edge and corner pieces per face is the same as the number of sides to the face.


PLEASE... mass produce the Dino Octa...


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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:28 pm 
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The 3x3 icosahedral 'natural generalization' is the icosaminx (or 2.2.2). Perhaps with a different stickering pattern (10 or 20 color, each vertex), but the same basic puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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Danny Devitt wrote:
The 3x3 icosahedral 'natural generalization' is the icosaminx (or 2.2.2). Perhaps with a different stickering pattern (10 or 20 color, each vertex), but the same basic puzzle.

I have to disagree, that isn't face turning so it doesn't fit the mold.


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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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Then it would have to be part of the 2.1.x series on gelatinbrain.


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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:22 pm 
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does this mean that those puzzles are going to be mass produced by the same person who mass produced the void cube? if so, i am looking foward to the flopy cube the most.

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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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the closest puzzle in Gelatinbrain's collection is the 2.1.1. It is the same except that
the cuts would have to be a bit shallower. (Each of 2.1.1, 2.1.2, 2.1.3, 2.1.4, 2.1.5 have cuts
increasingly deeper. I guess it would have to be 2.1.0) Each face would have to look like this:

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Puzzle 2.1.1 is like Méffert's pyraminx compared to Halpern-Meier pyramid...


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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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PotatoSpades22095 wrote:
does this mean that those puzzles are going to be mass produced by the same person who mass produced the void cube? if so, i am looking foward to the flopy cube the most.


So far it is only wishful thinking...! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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crepeau wrote:
the closest puzzle in Gelatinbrain's collection is the 2.1.1. It is the same except that
the cuts would have to be a bit shallower. (Each of 2.1.1, 2.1.2, 2.1.3, 2.1.4, 2.1.5 have cuts
increasingly deeper. I guess it would have to be 2.1.0) Each face would have to look like this:

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Puzzle 2.1.1 is like Méffert's pyraminx compared to Halpern-Meier pyramid...


I disagree. The problem with that is that it has a bunch of extra non-3x3-like pieces. Right now I can't think of any puzzle that wouldn't create more pieces though.

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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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The extra non-3x3-like pieces are simply a feature of the fact that more than three faces meet at each vertex of an icosahedron - the same thing happens with shallow face turning octahedral puzzles, like the Dino Octa (which has one type of extra piece in addition to the normal corners and edges).

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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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Ok, fair enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Okamoto Gallery
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Alternatively, if the center pieces are pretty big, the tiny connecting pieces (purple in my drawing)
might be ignored. In this case only one type of extra piece as in the Dino Octa would be added...


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