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 Post subject: 6 Gen edges on larger than 4x4x4
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:13 am 
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So I've been struggling to get my 5x5x5 under 4 minutes, and I'm familiar with chain solving the edges. No issue there. I've been practicing with doing the 6gen edges with the 4x4x4 but I'm curious as to how I should apply this to cubes larger than this.

Do I solve part of the edge, store it and then come back to it? I guess I'm just confused about how I should approach it because the 4³ is pretty straight-forward.

Any suggestions/help would be appreciated :)

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 Post subject: Re: 6 Gen edges on larger than 4x4x4
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:59 am 
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CORRECTION: 6 GEN is the wrong way of naming that.
Gen always refers to the number of faces you would use for an algorithm.
For instance the 3-cycle of edges with only RU moves is a 2 GEN algorithm.

You are referring to 6 AT A TIME edges. I still wonder who started this error since a lot of people are making it lately...

Answer to your question: 6 at a time on a 5x5 works like a charm but somehow recognition is slow and times bad for me.

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 Post subject: Re: 6 Gen edges on larger than 4x4x4
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:31 am 
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Ahhh, Gotcha - thanks for explaining the difference there to me.

Well, then 6 at a time Edges - I'm not sure how to understand how to do it. I don't mind if my recognition is slow, I just want to start using it properly because the speed will come with practice.

Could someone explain how to use the 6 at a time method on a 5x5x5 cube? I understand it entirely on the 4x4x4 cube, but I'm just not "getting" how it applies with the 5x5x5 cube :-)

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 Post subject: Re: 6 Gen edges on larger than 4x4x4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:42 pm 
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I would re-word that further as "6 semi-pairs at a time". In that case you are really just doing the same thing as you did for 4x4 but focusing on only two of the three middle layers. The biggest problem would be the amount of special cases to learn - for the various locked out situations and other problems.

Instead, I've found it best to consider '6 at a time' as a special case for regular 2-2 chaining. To do it when thigns have fallen into place more naturally or 1 move away from nicely setup.

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 Post subject: Re: 6 Gen edges on larger than 4x4x4
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:46 am 
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Erik wrote:
I still wonder who started this error since a lot of people are making it lately...


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