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 Post subject: has this been made? complete graph and fully functional
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:42 am 
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Has anyone made a fully functional puzzle with cuts along (at least) the edges of a complete graph of order 6 (or more)? For example, imagine the figures below as faces of two-layer cheeses, with turning possible about every cut. Is this feasible?

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Note that the figure on the right would lead to a bandaged two-layer cheese.


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 Post subject: Re: has this been made? complete graph and fully functional
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:13 am 
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Well... regarding the left picture, I have a graph(idron) which "compliments" it:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=18147&start=0

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Joking aside, this task seems to be a very interesting one, not impossible, but difficult.

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 Post subject: Re: has this been made? complete graph and fully functional
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:17 am 
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The one on the left is very possible. The centres for the shallow cut pieces are split in 2(4 due to 2 layer cheese) and are thus like the extensions on a 1x2x3
With the one on the right the additional cheese cuts would cut the shallow cut corners aswell, which is less desirable. So I think that is also possible, but less stable.

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 Post subject: Re: has this been made? complete graph and fully functional
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:22 am 
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The one on the right could jumble if you made a 30-degree turn on one layer.


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 Post subject: Re: has this been made? complete graph and fully functional
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:27 am 
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Jared: I called it bandaging in my original post, but reading the definition of jumbling on the forum, I guess that is indeed what it would do.


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 Post subject: Re: has this been made? complete graph and fully functional
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:58 am 
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These sorts of puzzles can be made using the shells approach.

There are simpler puzzles which have never been made - for example, a 4- or 5-axis cheese, and the variants on those where you can slice about a horizontal plane like in the rubik's ufo, and the variants on those where the horizontal plane can only slice a multiple of two units. Those last two are actually quite complicated and interesting design challenges.


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