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 Post subject: Computer professionals?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:47 pm 
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The student thread made me curious, how many people on the board are computer professionals? From looking at the Who's Who, it seems like we have quite a bit. I haven't posted a Who's Who profile yet, but I'm a software engineer at a rather large computer company.


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I'm doing computer science at uni this year.

I like programming in C and perl.

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I never had an appreciation for C++ until I got to work and saw real world examples of how object orientated design can be beneficial. I think the OO in college classes is always too simple to show how powerful is can be.

Perl is great. I use that at home for my web page scripts and other utility hacks.


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I used to like Perl, but now I think PHP is the better Perl.
PHP probably means "PHP Humiliates Perl".


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StefanPochmann wrote:
PHP probably means "PHP Humiliates Perl".


And that means "PHP Humiliates Perl Humiliates Perl" or what? :wink:


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StefanPochmann wrote:
I used to like Perl, but now I think PHP is the better Perl.
PHP probably means "PHP Humiliates Perl".


Yay for recursion!

As for php vs perl, I think it really depends what you're doing.


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lol be lucky you got to use those languages.... I took a brief course in programming, with very little knowledge that I had, I had no idea what I was getting into.

So, what is this language?? hahaha Cobal!!! freaking Cobal!! and this was almost 10 years ago... and it still was an outdated program then lol.

well, other than that, I've dabbled in DHTML, done a little 'forum' building (Well used other sites to build up mine. - haha I'm a master of cutting and pasting ;) :P).... I've used databases.

I work on a computer 8-) but i'm no computer professional hahaha

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reeeech wrote:
So, what is this language?? hahaha Cobal!!! freaking Cobal!! and this was almost 10 years ago... and it still was an outdated program then lol.


I took a programming class in high school 10 years ago. It was GW-Basic. We had QBasic installed on the machines, but we didn't have textbooks for those. So in 1997, I had to use line numbers in my programs. In college, I started with Ada. I don't think it matters what language you learn on, because once you get the premise of programming, you should be able to easily adapt to other languages.


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Uh... no. I leard Basic first and found it to be super intuitive. When I took Pascal in first year university, I hated it. I mean, I HATED it! Like for example, how can you have a programming language without a "goto" command? Well, technically there is one, but we weren't allowed to use it, and it also meant that you needed to create labels for where you wanted things to go to, and the version of Pascal that we were using at the time limited that to 10. Then there was also crap like "define type string = packed array [1..255] of char;" ("That's it!" the teacher had the gall to say) vs. simply A$="put whatever you want in here" which not only defined the variable name, but also the type of variable and assigned it a value on the fly all in one simple command. The Pascal thing mentioned above only tells it what a string is. It doesn't define a variable to use as a string, and forget about assigning it a value. Then there's Modula-2, the next gen Pascal program, where all the commands are case sensitive. eg. for printing text, you had to type the command EXACTLY as WriteLn (NOT writeln, NOT WRITELN, or WRiteln, or any other combination) or else it would be too stupid to pick it up as a valid command. Then there's Lisp, which is an entirely recursive language, and FORTRAN, where variable types are defined by their first letters and only allowed 6 letters for a variable name (we still needed to make the names "meaningful" somehow in class, though). If you ever saw the quote "God is real, unless declared integer" and wondered where it came from, it's a FORTRAN in joke. C is basically a nghtmare being dreamed by an acid tripper. E, however, I liked. I think it was on the Amiga only, and basically combined the best parts of many languages into one, so it was really easy to pick up (IMHO). Computer langauages are just as varied in their intricacies (or perhaps even more varied) than the solutions to Rubik's Cube posted on the net. L8r.


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Languages: I started programming on the Apple II when I was around 9 (so circa 1982), Applesoft BASIC then 6502 assembly. Picked up Pascal along the way somewhere, then various esoteric online languages (MUSHcode, etc). Did a CS degree so picked up functional languages like Miranda, ML and various other things, although most coursework was C/C++. After you know a functional language and a procedural language it's pretty much all the same thing. Java, Perl, C#, JavaScript, whatever. They're all just tools to have in a toolbox, and if you're serious about software development it shouldn't take more than a week to become fairly fluent in a new language.

After the CS degree I got a job at a startup doing Java/Web stuff in 1996. Then spent 9 years at Microsoft (speaking of large software companies) as a developer and program manager. Left about 3 months ago and I'm now a PM at Linden Labs, the folks that make the MMOVR called Second Life.


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I am not a pro, but I am exteamly good at VB and PHP / MySQL. I also dabble in Java, C#, and Python.

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I'm not a pro, either. I learned Pascal about 8 years ago, then HTML which I had to use along with Java and Ocaml in my first two years at the university. It was all pretty basic though and I've already fogotten most of it.

As for hardware, my new computer components should arrive any day now and I'll attempt to put them together myself. Just so you know why I might disappear for a weak :wink:


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Anyone ever do any Whitespace or [Censored. Please be nice!]? :)

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Haara wrote:
And that means "PHP Humiliates Perl Humiliates Perl" or what? :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_acronym

Kirjava wrote:
As for php vs perl, I think it really depends what you're doing.

Where is perl better? Ok I do admit I use it for little command line tricks but for webpages PHP is my clear winner.


Anyone here into programming contests? TopCoder, ACM ICPC, ... ?


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StefanPochmann wrote:
Haara wrote:
And that means "PHP Humiliates Perl Humiliates Perl" or what? :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_acronym


okey, you beat me ... :( :P


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StefanPochmann wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
As for php vs perl, I think it really depends what you're doing.

Where is perl better? Ok I do admit I use it for little command line tricks but for webpages PHP is my clear winner.


System administration, processing lots of info. Since when do make a php app to be run by a cron job? :)

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Anyone here into programming contests? TopCoder, ACM ICPC, ... ?


I used to do a game programming one that use the Allegro library, but I havn't done anything like it for ages... and I'd have to touch up my knowledge. You know Tins/Speedhack?

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BASIC, assembler, dBase, HP3000 MPE, TurboIMAGE. Yes, I *am* a bit behind evolution :)
Nowadays some HTML, Javascript, PHP (Perl isn't supported any longer for security reason's by my ISP)


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not a computer professional, but note that I created a nice (star wars like) video game back in 1984 on a ZX Spectrum 48K!!! :P
(unfortunately, after a while, the tape recorder munched the tape together with the game file... :( - I didn't bother rewriting it...)

Regarding computer languages, a few old ones, like basic, pascal, fortran etc...



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Kirjava wrote:
Since when do make a php app to be run by a cron job? :)


PHP can be used for standalone applications. Using the -q flag, you can suppress the HTTP headers.


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Kirjava wrote:
System administration, processing lots of info. Since when do make a php app to be run by a cron job? :)

That doesn't count, I don't use perl for cron jobs either (cause I don't use cron jobs at all). Like I said, I do use perl for little command lines and sometimes I write tiny program files with it but the latter could be due to lack of php installed at our university computers.

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You know Tins/Speedhack?


No. Didn't even find tins by googling. Speedhack seems to be about building whole games? Nah, I always just liked the little algorithmic contests... ICFP was the most "complex" I've participated in.


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My work title is Computer Specialist. i maintain computers for the Southwest region liberty centers for the Navy. i have about 500 computers that i have to make sure are running from day to day. i dont really consider myself a professional but its along that same line. Unfortunatly i dont do any programing, just mainly building and rebuilding computers.


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I'm working as a so-called "Solution Architect". Currently I'm caring about a consistent solution for our EAI project, including all from naming conventions, data model, programming patterns up to strategic discussions with our customers how to set up the projects. It's a lot of organisation and meetings, but sometimes I still find the time for DB programming and process flow design.
I work for a large German wholesale trade company, working internationally in about 30 countries - and so do I (but really not all 30, thanks!!). I'm working for this company now for about 14 years already. Incredible..


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My day job is "systems engineer." I just put in my two week's notice with my current company so I will have a new exciting job as... "systems engineer."

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My job is software programming by Java, C, and C++ at work. Then, perhaps I'm called one of professional programmer. ;)

Of course, sometimes I wrote wrong code in my source code, and BUGs appear with any mis-action. X-(
And I said always like everyone, "Hey, why you do move not to along my command ?"
... Computer is rightly moved everytime. Along my wrong code. X-)

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