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 Post subject: Puzzle Games
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:02 pm 
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Just wondering if anyone here enjoys playing any Puzzle based Video Games or if I can convince some traditional Twisty Puzzlers to get into them. Puzzle games are an every growing genre of video games and there are a wide variety to choose from. Many of them present very similar challenges or at least invoke the same sort of cognitive response that we crave in puzzles. To start off I'm a huge fan of the popular Portal series. For those unfamiliar, the game centers around the ability to use a Portal 'gun' to navigate environments and solve puzzles allowing you to pass through walls from one place to another (very hard to describe but very natural when seen and experienced).

Video(Portal 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZD17pQSqUU
Steam(Portal): http://store.steampowered.com/app/400/
Steam(Portal 2): http://store.steampowered.com/app/620/

There are a few more recent games I've played though that inspired me to create this thread. First of all one that I finished up this weekend was NaissanceE. NaissanceE takes place in a monochromatic world and uses lighting heavily to it's advantage in several puzzle solving sequences. Although puzzle solving makes up for about 1/3 of the game(the other 2/3rds being mostly platforming and exploration) the puzzles are very intriguing, unique, and provide a good, although not frustrating, challenge. Although some of the mechanics can be a bit clumsy it is still one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN5zri5TmPU
Steam(25% off until May 12): http://store.steampowered.com/app/265690/

The next title I'd like to cover may actually be my favorite puzzle game I've ever played. Antichamber is a first person puzzle game, like the previous two, that uses a minimalistic style and has the most mind boggling and reality warping puzzles I've ever seen. It uses many things from infinite staircases to non-euclidean geometries to present a puzzle experience unlike any other. The obtainment of a voxel manipulator early in the game allows for the puzzles to become even more advanced and upgrades to this system even further complicate things.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwroVh8hb80
Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/219890/

The final game I'd like to talk about is a recent title by the name Fract OSC. The game is based around using music to manipulate environments and solve puzzles. Slowly over time it introduces you to all sorts of music editing tools and turns even the least talented person into an amazing musician without them even realizing at first. I am about halfway through it and have been thoroughly enjoying the experience thus far.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjdBuFQfsdc
Steam:http://store.steampowered.com/app/243220/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_1

I lied I thought of one more. Year Walk is a fantastic title that is available both for PC and iOS if you want to take it on the go. It is a creepy and disturbing puzzle games that is also way up there for one of the most unique and intriguing gaming experiences I've had. Like the others before, it really just must be played.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVz_MhMsAvs
Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/26905 ... 151__104_3
Apple Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/year-wa ... 16407?mt=8

These are just a handful of titles that I myself have played. I have left out huge sections of the market (especially a large number of 2D puzzle games) but I hope there will be others here who can help fill in a list of some of the best. If you are interested in possibly getting introduced to puzzle games but don't know where to start or don't have the best PC, just comment here about what you think you'd be into and I'm sure I could find something to peak your interest.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzle Games
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:37 am 
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I play a lot of puzzle games too!

Portal & Portal 2 are consistently voted among the best games ever made. Rightly so just for GlaDos!
Even if you do not play games - you should check out Portal.
I saw NaissancE on the Steam Deals - so will go check that out.
Antichamber is a complete headmess! I think I am about 2/3rd's through but how can I tell!

I recommend The Stanley Parable (to anyone). You start in your little work cubicle and everyone else is gone...
The writing/voice-over is sublime and I have never "died" so much and laughed so much at the same time!

I will now go and check out Fract OSC & Year Walk.
Thanks for the recommendations

P.S. It is not a puzzle game but try out Race The Sun. Very simple and addictive game that resets every 24hrs!

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzle Games
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:50 am 
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My favorite puzzle game is SpaceChem. It's a great game where you program machines to build molecules. The puzzles are a nice difficulty and multifaceted. If you've got friends that play too, it's fun to compete optimizing your machines to run fast or with the fewest commands.

Portal and Antichamber are great too. Here's a few more I enjoy. Braid, The Swapper, Vessel, Gateways

Sometimes I get annoyed at all the over-hype Stanley Parable gets. It's really just a choose your own adventure book in video game FPS format. It's not actually a game in my opinion (but that doesn't mean it isn't entertaining).
One narrative with actual puzzle aspects to it that I really enjoyed was Thomas Was Alone. The puzzles are on the simpler side, but the narration is good. I never knew colored rectangles could have so much personality.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzle Games
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:43 am 
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oxymoronicuber wrote:
I play a lot of puzzle games too!
I saw NaissancE on the Steam Deals - so will go check that out.


Please do. I would be kinda iffy recommending it for $20 but at $15 I can't not recommend it. I can't speak enough praise for this game. There are some flaws but for the first game made by a single guy it really is grea. If you do get it, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

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Antichamber is a complete headmess! I think I am about 2/3rd's through but how can I tell!


Well considering I've seen runs of only 2:36 (that's two minutes not two hours), it's really difficult to know how far through the game you are. Many of the puzzles are not required to actually beat the game. Do you have all 3 upgrades for the voxel manipulator thingy?

oxymoronicuber wrote:
I recommend The Stanley Parable (to anyone). You start in your little work cubicle and everyone else is gone...
The writing/voice-over is sublime and I have never "died" so much and laughed so much at the same time!


Not sure if it counts as a puzzle game or not but I am a huge fan of the of the original HL2 mod and the full game :mrgreen:

oxymoronicuber wrote:
P.S. It is not a puzzle game but try out Race The Sun. Very simple and addictive game that resets every 24hrs!

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I've never heard of this one. Might need to go check it out.




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My favorite puzzle game is SpaceChem. It's a great game where you program machines to build molecules. The puzzles are a nice difficulty and multifaceted. If you've got friends that play too, it's fun to compete optimizing your machines to run fast or with the fewest commands.

Portal and Antichamber are great too. Here's a few more I enjoy. Braid, The Swapper, Vessel, Gateways

Sometimes I get annoyed at all the over-hype Stanley Parable gets. It's really just a choose your own adventure book in video game FPS format. It's not actually a game in my opinion (but that doesn't mean it isn't entertaining).
One narrative with actual puzzle aspects to it that I really enjoyed was Thomas Was Alone. The puzzles are on the simpler side, but the narration is good. I never knew colored rectangles could have so much personality.


I quite enjoyed both The Swapper and Thomas Was Alone. I've heard a lot of good things about Braid as well but have never picked it up. I'll look into some of the other titles you mentioned as well.

There are a lot of games that kinda fall into the puzzle genre but they can be a bit hard to classify sometimes. I have so more good ones but I'll wait until I get home today to post the rest. I'm loving the suggestions so far though.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzle Games
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:18 pm 
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4 Posts in a topic about puzzle games and no mention of Tetris yet? Part of me says that's borderline blasphemy.

But yeah, Tetris is probably my all-time favorite puzzle games and its one of the few video games I keep coming back to in one form or another(and I have lost count of how many times I have gotten the Tetris itch and been unable to scratch it since my vision went south). My favorite versions of Tetris are probably the Gameboy version of Tetris Plus, the GBC version of Magical Tetris Challenge, and the GBA version of Tetris Worlds.

I also like Panel de Pon, which is also my favorite of the match 3 variety. Favorite incarnations are probably Tetris Attack for GB and Pokemon Puzzle League for N64.

I haven't played them, but my Fiancee would recommend the Zero Escape series(the first game being 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors for the DS and the second being Virtue's Last Reward for 3DS and Vita). I can vouch for 999 having good story though, as my fiancee read most of it to me when she played it.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzle Games
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:08 pm 
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I play some now and again, but now many. However Portal and Portal 2 are about my favourite games of all time. The only flaw with portal was that it was too short.

Portal 2 had everything, story, great puzzles, story twists, and one of the funniest game characters ever, and an inspired end sequence, along with some of the most fun multiplayer gaming I've ever had. Just superb from start to finish. It pains me that valve say they will not make a Portal 3 :(

Tetris I never managed to enjoy for any more than the briefest of periods unfortunately.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzle Games
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Games from various corners of the Internet:

Bricks: Freeware sliding blocks puzzle with weird elements and a global scoreboard. http://www.bricks-game.de
Wonderland and Wonderland Adventures series: top-down puzzlers in the style of Chip's Challenge et al. The Adventures games make a side-series with a storyline and slightly different gameplay. http://www.midnightsynergy.com/
Hanano Puzzle and Jelly no Puzzle: Two very, very challenging freeware games with unique rules. In Hanano Puzzle you seek to bloom flowers out of blocks, and in Jelly no Puzzle you want to connect like-colored jelly cubes. http://qrostar.skr.jp/index.cgi?lang=en
Chromentum 2: A nice puzzler with an inconsequential story. Quite difficult on later levels. Plays like a combination of billiards and Sokoban. http://www.alpha72.com/index.html?game= ... pc&plat=pc

Awesome puzzlers that are on Steam that haven't been listed yet:

Cogs: Sliding blocks with gears on them and other steampunk elements. Very cool.
English Country Tune: Difficult to explain. You're a square flipping around on cubes, and every time you think you have it figured out, something new happens. Totally, totally mind-boggling, and HIGHLY recommended.
Toki Tori: A puzzle "platformer" in the loosest possible sense (you can't jump). Use items like bridges and blocks to maneuver through difficult mazes and collect eggs.
Toki Tori 2: Not like the first one, this is more of an exploration game where you have a few basic moves you can do at any time. I particularly liked this one.
RUSH: Put down tiles to redirect cubes to exit points without letting them crash into each other. A bit like Chu Chu Rocket.
Fez: A puzzle platformer where you are stuck in 2D but can rotate the 3D world around. Taking notes is recommended.
Super Puzzle Platformer Deluxe: OK this is less of a puzzler and more of a "you're stuck in a puzzler, survive" game. Shoot blocks and avoid spikes and stuff inside a Tetris-like grid.
Escape Goat: Puzzle platformers where you are a goat, escaping. Also there's a mouse and some hats and sheep and stuff.
Puzzle Dimension: Roll a ball around 3D maze things. Gravity changes when you go over an angle. Very mind-bending.
Starseed Pilgrim: This is a game where you have to play it to figure out what the rules are. So I'm not going to spoil it. Worth checking out if that sort of thing intrigues you.
Zen Bound 2: Wrap weird shapes in rope, trying to cover them completely. Much more interesting and challenging than that sounds.
Triple Town: This one's also available on mobile devices, but the Steam version has a sort of meta-game where you can build your own little island in between sessions. The goal of the game is to group like objects into sets of 3 or more, which makes them combine into other, more valuable items.

I have more puzzlers on Steam but I haven't gotten around to playing them yet... stupid sales...

Oh, one more thing - everyone with a mobile device should check out Cut The Rope and its sequels. Not always the most difficult games, but super fun and cute. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzle Games
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:14 pm 
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I really love Fez, Antichamber, Portal, and The Stanley Parable which have already been mentioned. The Submachine series is also amazing, and has some difficult puzzles. The Myst series is also great.

Also, I am currently playing NaissanceE, and I really like it.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzle Games
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:24 am 
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I just remembered a pair of fun little puzzle games from when I first got an Android device. If I remember correctly, their names were Nintai and Atamai. Both have you moving a 1*1*2 block around a square grid and trying to drop it into a 1*1 square hole. Nintai prevented the block from falling off the edge and had buttons activated by setting the block upright on them that would toggle barriers(sometimes in rather unintuitive fashions). Atamai allowed the block to fall off the edge, featured switches that would extend or collapse bridges, switches that would split the block into unit cubes that could move independantly(but had to be merged back together before dropping in the hole), and glass tiles that could support the block when lying down, but would break if the block was stood on end on them. As I remember, both had demos with like 10 levels and cost like 99 cents to unlock the full version with like 100 levels for Nintai and I think 60 levels for atamai. I think Atamai also gave you a rank based on how many moves you used to clear a stage.

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