Online since 2002. Over 3300 puzzles, 2600 worldwide members, and 270,000 messages.

TwistyPuzzles.com Forum

It is currently Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:17 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Sell $16.64 worth of aluminum... the smart way.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:28 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:09 pm
Location: Missouri
I saw this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJ2jMZ-gaI

And thought cool!!! So I checked out his website:

http://anthillart.com/

Interesting... he currently has a 20.8 pound sculpture up on ebay. At 80 cents a pound that comes to $16.64 worth of raw materials. So what do these sell for...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251400985690

:shock: Picks jaw up off floor!!! :shock:

There are times I really feel like an idiot. I got a Ph.D. and work my @$$ off to make a living and it looks like I could make one of these a month and do just fine. When I lived in Texas I had fire ants everywhere. And I paid far more then $16.64 while there on ant killer. Looks like I should have simply been buying aluminum. Here in Arizona I don't have any fire ants... never thought I'd miss them. But I do now... oh boy do I miss them. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Seriously... I want to make one of these. It looks fun. Hmmm... I did inherit 80 acres of wooded hunting land in northern Michigan from my father. I used to go there once a year as a child but I get there much less often now but it is covered with many of these.

Image

Now I just need a dump truck full of molten aluminum and I think I know how to make my first million.

Carl

_________________
-
Image

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sell $16.64 worth of aluminum... the smart way.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:00 am
Location: Jarrow, England
The ants! Will nobody think of the ants!

_________________
My Shapeways Shop: http://www.shapeways.com/shops/gus_shop

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sell $16.64 worth of aluminum... the smart way.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:54 pm
Location: Bay Area, California
It seems like his eBay listings have been removed. What were they selling for?

It looks pretty fun and easy to make one of these. I guess the hard part would be getting a crucible of molten metal to the anthill.

_________________
Prior to using my real name I posted under the account named bmenrigh.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sell $16.64 worth of aluminum... the smart way.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:09 pm
Location: Missouri
Brandon Enright wrote:
It seems like his eBay listings have been removed. What were they selling for?
When I saw it this morning it was up to $4760 or something like that with over 10 hours to go.
Brandon Enright wrote:
It looks pretty fun and easy to make one of these. I guess the hard part would be getting a crucible of molten metal to the anthill.
It does look fun. I think the tricky part may be getting the molten aluminum hot enough. I suspect you want to be not just at the melting point but well above it. For the aluminum to continue to run through all those little passages and remain molten all the way to the bottom sounds problematic. I would have guessed the holes would have been small enough and cold enough that the aluminum would have solidified very quickly.

Carl

_________________
-
Image

Image


Last edited by wwwmwww on Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sell $16.64 worth of aluminum... the smart way.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:54 pm
Location: Bay Area, California
wwwmwww wrote:
It does look fun. I think the tricky part may be getting the molten aluminum hot enough. I suspect you want to be not just at the melting point but well above it. For the aluminum to continue to run through all those little passages and remain molten all the way to the bottom sounds problematic. I would have guess the holes would have been small enough and cold enough that the aluminum would have solidified very quickly.


I was thinking that too. The first thought that came to mind was "why aluminum?".

I see a few possibilities for why aluminum was used:
  • It isn't poisonous like lead
  • It's relatively light weight which should make big anthills not too heavy
  • It's not too hard to get a hold of large quantities
  • It forms an oxide layer which probably helps it retain heat as well as not form alloys with minerals in the dirt
  • It has a really low melting point (although zinc and tin are lower)

_________________
Prior to using my real name I posted under the account named bmenrigh.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sell $16.64 worth of aluminum... the smart way.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:38 am
Location: Connecticut
Where did you see $4K? Here is a link to a closed auction where his #43 casting of a fire ant colony sold for $250:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-Fire-Ant-Colony-Casting-043-/251397738345?pt=Art_Sculpture&hash=item3a88790f69

His other closed auctions sold for less...

_________________
http://robspuzzlepage.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Sell $16.64 worth of aluminum... the smart way.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:09 pm
Location: Missouri
Rob wrote:
Where did you see $4K? Here is a link to a closed auction where his #43 casting of a fire ant colony sold for $250:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-Fire-Ant-Colony-Casting-043-/251397738345?pt=Art_Sculpture&hash=item3a88790f69
Interesting... That one is 17.9 pounds and sold a few days ago. The one I saw this morning was 20.8 pounds and there were 10+ hours left in the auction at the time of my first post above. Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251400985690
But its been taken down. At the time I saw it there was a $4700 and some odd change bid on the auction. No idea if that is what it sold for or not. The break.com website currently has his video as one of their main featured videos so I suspect he was getting a LOT of extra advertising here lately. I can't say I've scanned eBay for "ant hill" before today. So maybe the $4700 is a one time fluke... or maybe it was alot of fraudulent bidding. I honestly have NO idea. If the $4700 price was real I'd want it made out of silver... not aluminum.

$250 certainly does come closer to my expectations then $4700 does but I still think I could make my own for less then that and have more fun doing it.

Carl

_________________
-
Image

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Forum powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group