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 Post subject: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:39 am 
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Hi Twisty Puzzles fans,

Cubes on a Disk a two 4x4x4 Rubik's Cubes connected on a disk. The two cubes can exchange parts by turning the disk and bringing one half of one cube on top of another half of the other cube.

Oskar came up with this idea while working on 4Cubes with Tony Fisher. The prototype shown has a 3D-printed disks by Shapeways and the other parts cast by Tony. However, given the amount of work needed to build this puzzle, we decided that it would be the most effective to sell it through Shapeways.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:10 am 
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Here's my standard close up video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waoDAff9rug

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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:29 am 
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Interesting puzzle, clever design and beautifully made.

I see that you have used different colour stickers for all of the faces. Would it be harder if you used standard colour stickers on both cubes? Perhaps one of them could be a mirror image? That would be very confusing.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:01 am 
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That is beautiful! And a nice idea! Does the two cubes have 12 colors total?

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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:23 am 
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Awesome puzzle! But why did you decide to have different colors en each cube?


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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:24 am 
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Gus wrote:
Interesting puzzle, clever design and beautifully made.

I see that you have used different colour stickers for all of the faces. Would it be harder if you used standard colour stickers on both cubes? Perhaps one of them could be a mirror image? That would be very confusing.


I coloured the prototypes. I liked the idea of having 12 different colours. It's kind of weird when you are trying to solve the first cube and you keep seeing weird colours like purple mixed in with the regular ones. Sticking to 6 colours for me would have made the puzzle far less attractive even if slightly more confusing to solve.

Japsiefy wrote:
Awesome puzzle! But why did you decide to have different colors en each cube?

Remember this is one 12 sided puzzle so it's no different to preferring a 12 colour Skewb Ultimate to a 6 colour one.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:27 am 
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Congratulations Tony and Oskar, this is truely stunning, especially with the thoroughness of the scramble :D !!
Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:27 am 
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Amazing! I like the 12 colors.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:42 am 
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This is how fully functional siamese cubes work. Just a little more work and you'd have the world's first fully functional Siamese 4x4x4 cubes.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:07 am 
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Very good concept!

Can you upload another image showing a midturn for the outer two (or one of them) sides? You demonstrate type of this turn in the video but not in the images.

For the statistics:
This puzzle has 21827052871452212913870307256118966639393645642932395117939555272371460039856664315166720000000000000000000000 permutations.
The 4x4x4 has 7401196841564901869874093974498574336000000000 permutations.
The first number is significantly higher than the doubled 4x4x4:
Size(CubesOnADisk)/Size(4x4x4)^2 = 65124474205430540160000/81719


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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:26 pm 
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Wow. The most accomplished hand-made puzzle maker teams up with the most accomplished Shapeways puzzle maker. Nothing short of awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:13 pm 
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Congratulations to you both.

Awesome puzzle. I have to order it!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Cubes on a Disk by OSKAR and TONY
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:51 pm 
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You two certainly did it again, I personally like this one even more than 4cubes. This one really appeals to me, I just think it has some real elegance to it. I also like that you chose 12 colors, it makes it look very beautiful when scrambled.

Please, continue with these cooperative projects, you are both many of our heros! :mrgreen:


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