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gingervergo
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Post subject: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:17 am |
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Hey forum, This is my latest puzzle, the royal pentultimate. It has 6 axis of rotation, with 4 cuts per axis, resulting in 24 cuts total.   Although the photos look quite ugly, the puzzle look much nicer In real life. I had to apply a lot of superglue to keep the stickers on, and for some reason, it really shows in the photos. I will be making a v2 with flat faces, and hopefully I will be able to iron the stickers on. VideoAs you can tell form the video, the turning quality of this puzzle is far less than perfect, but I plan on do a second version with an improved mechanism. I hate to draw comparisons, but the challenge of getting this puzzle to turn well is on the same level as Oskar's Brilliant 17x17x17. When executing a slice turn on his 17x17x17, there are 64 parts that need to be rotated; on the royal pentultimate, there are 60. To make matters worse, the direction of the force used to turn the slice layer in the royal pentultimate is not normal(meaning perpendicular) to the cut planes to any of the parts being rotated, meaning that some of the force is transferred into a different direction, causing alignment and "squishyness" issues; due to the cubic nature of the 17x17x17, this problem is non existent. I will not be selling copies of this puzzle, as it does not function well enough. With all of the things I have learned from building this puzzle, I think I can get v2 to work much better, and assuming that works well, I will auction a copy off. A Family photo: 
_________________ --Eric Vergo
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Luke
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:25 am |
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Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:21 pm Location: Chichester, England
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Oh my God!!! You sir, are a legend. What I'm upset about is that there is not a chance that will ever win the auction. Ever.
Slightly off topic, but is the Master Pentultimate on the right your design? I plan on buying a Master Pentultimate from you in the near future, and I would much prefer a flat design rather than pillowed.
_________________ 3x3x3 single: 5.73 seconds. 3x3x3 average of five: 9.24 seconds. 3x3x3 average of twelve: 10.46 seconds.
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Zhewei
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:27 am |
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Eric, you are way too harsh on yourself, the turning is great!
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Adman234
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:32 am |
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Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:17 am Location: Missourica
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WOW. That is amazing. With all of these "royal" puzzles lately you surely are the "king" Again, I feel your pain for the stickering. Wow. Some of those stickers are the size of a flea! Great work. It looks like it turns pretty well in the video.
_________________ Adam Brown, Puzzle Builder/Modder
Past project: The Geode Current Project: Replica RPK-74 Future Project: Possibly another master mental
Oskar wrote: I am now adding dummy cubes to my models to cross the 10% density threshold and save myself money big time.
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eye2eye
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:33 am |
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Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:46 pm Location: Littleton CO
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Great work Eric. It looks like to me the turning is very good if the puzzle is all aligned, otherwise it locks up a bit.
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Thomas
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:44 am |
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Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:34 pm Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Kapusta
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:06 am |
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:06 pm Location: Nowhere in particular.
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The most beautiful dodecahedron I've seen since the starminx and the petaminx. Absolutely gorgeous.
_________________ ~Kapusta
PB: At home (In Competition) 2x2 1.xx (2.88) 3x3 11.xx (15.81) 4x4 1:18.26 (1:24.63) 5x5 (3:00.02) 6x6 4:26.05 (6:34.68) 7x7 6:54.62 (9:48.81) OH (35.63)
Current Goals: 7x7 sub 6:45 4x4 sub 1:10
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RubixFreakGreg
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:28 am |
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Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:48 am Location: In Front Of My Teraminx (saying WTF?)
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c1829
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:53 am |
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Incredible. Great work. 
_________________ -Jacob Hamrick 2x2 PB: 2.36 3x3 PB: 19.89
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Jared
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:07 pm |
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Now all that's missing is a four-layered one. 
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MonkeyZ
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:31 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:59 pm Location: NJ
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This is fantastic and the turning far surpasses my expectations, however alignment seems to be extremely important  Excellent job.
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cubedude76
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:34 pm |
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Gus
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:01 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:00 am Location: Jarrow, England
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This is a perfect example of the combination of extreme engineering and beauty. You should be proud of your work Eric!
_________________ Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done.
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yummyyummypbj
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:19 pm |
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Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:50 am
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First of all this puzzle is amazing. Second, would it be rude to ask how many pieces are in it?
_________________ "If I have been able to see further, it was only because I stood on the shoulders of giants" Isaac Newton
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gingervergo
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:44 pm |
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Joined: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:23 pm
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cubedude76 wrote: Do you think anyone will be able to solve it? Without a doubt, i think any of the guys that hang out in the gelatinbrain thread would be able to tackle this one pretty easily. yummyyummypbj wrote: would it be rude to ask how many pieces are in it? The part count is 544, not including the core.
_________________ --Eric Vergo
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RubixFreakGreg
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:06 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:48 am Location: In Front Of My Teraminx (saying WTF?)
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Sjoerd
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:08 pm |
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Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:41 am Location: Spijkenisse, the Netherlands
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Oh I'll gladly have a go at this magnificent piece of pure awesomeness!
Is there any particular reason for skipping the professor version?
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TomZ
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:11 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:47 am Location: near Utrecht, Netherlands
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pirsquared
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:39 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:46 pm Location: Evanston, IL
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grigr
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:05 pm |
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Beans
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:25 pm |
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Wow what an amazing puzzle. You have really been turn out some truly impressive works of art lately. This is definitely one of my favorite dodecs.
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NType3
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:30 pm |
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Shapeways is a must. It hardly turns poorly.
_________________ --Noah
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
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DragonCuber
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:01 am |
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:37 pm Location: UK
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The ingenuity behind the design of this puzzle is staggering! Major Kudos to you, sir. Your puzzles or simply astonishing 
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Noreg89
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:39 pm |
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Wow! it looks amazing, and the turning is much better than I expected after reading your description of it. I love it!
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Superbud9123
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:11 pm |
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Wow! That is awesome!
You mentioned that you thought the turning quality was bad, and that it didn't function well, but by the video, it looks fine. Also, do you know how to solve it?
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Sigurd
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:30 pm |
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cjgerik
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:34 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:37 am Location: Waco, TX and South Bend, IN
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I will be praying that this is uploaded to Shapeways one day... the pictures are amazing, but when I watched the video, my jaw hit the floor. Superb puzzle, great job as always, I hope to own some of your puzzles one day!
Chris
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David Chua
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:17 am |
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Tony Fisher wrote: Gus wrote: I've finished stickering my Camouflage Cube: But anyone can see it a mile away with those colours!
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Jorbs3210
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Post subject: Re: Eric Vergo's Royal pentultimate Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:39 am |
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Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:25 pm Location: Farmington, NM
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Ummm... I think you skipped a cube (or two).
Awesome puzzle, though!
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