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 Post subject: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:41 pm 
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I'm proud to announce that Professor Pyraminx is not the highest order Pyraminx ever built anymore. Please meet my Royal Pyraminx with 6 turning layers.

Having 5 different cuts, this is the most complicated design I have ever created. I mean not only the mechanism, but also the cuts pattern - there are 25 points on each face where four spherical surfaces exactly intersect each other (these are either 3 cuts and 1 face surface, or 2 cuts and 2 faces). But the mechanism itself is not unbeleivably complex - beside 86 outer (stickered) pieces, there are only 12 internal (invisible) pieces.

Because the pillowness degree of Professor Pyraminx was not enough to let all the pieces stay in place when the layers are being turned, Royal Pyraminx has to be more pillowed. Still it is slightly less pillowed than a Releaux Tetrahedron.

As you can see on the video, the turning is very nice (at least for such a high order puzzle):

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:50 pm 
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Very nice, if only Mefferts did larger stickers like this on the professor pyraminx :)
Looks great

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:52 pm 
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Wow, from the video it looks unbelievably smooth! It's amazing that such a puzzle can even fuction.
P.S. I spy a Trignis and an FTO somewhere in that thing :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:33 pm 
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Great Puzzle! I can't believe my eyes.

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:33 pm 
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Great work Timur. I've been waiting for this one from you for a while. Let's hope this is next on Meffert's list.

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:29 pm 
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Amazing! Another very clean puzzle. :D

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Amazing! I wonder if reduction to a regular Pyraminx, since it's finally possible, is a feasible solving method?


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oh wow Timur! thats really impressive and beautiful!!

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:17 pm 
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Timur this is awesome! :shock: You have single-handedly increased the order of the classic Pyraminx (3 -> 4, 5, and now 6!). I did create an Order 2 Junior Pyraminx mod, but it is a trivial puzzle by anystrech of the imagination....

How much does it cost to print this bad boy?

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I saw this on Youtube this morning. This is just an incredible puzzle.


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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
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Stunning puzzle. Fantastic quality as usual, though I would expect no less.

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:11 pm 
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This has to be the smoothest-turning puzzle I've ever seen that's such a high order and 3D printed!

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Luke wrote:
Let's hope this is next on Meffert's list.

Simply beautiful and the turning looks great. I too hope Meffert's picks this up. Is this going to be up on ShapeWays?
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You have single-handedly increased the order of the classic Pyraminx (3 -> 4, 5, and now 6!).

I believe there are a few others that have made it to what you are calling order 4. I think the first was Katsuhiko Okamoto back in 2006. But beyond that you may very well be correct.

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
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Timur wrote:
Because the pillowness degree of Professor Pyraminx was not enough to let all the pieces stay in place when the layers are being turned, Royal Pyraminx has to be more pillowed. Still it is slightly less pillowed than a Releaux Tetrahedron.

Hmmm... how many orders could you in principle go to with a Releaux Tetrahedron? I was just looking at the image you posted some time ago...
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And hoping this whole family could have the same degree of pillowedness someday. Just wondering if you should have started with the Releaux Tetrahedron as the shape for these. I guess you have to draw a line somewhere...

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
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Oh my word! The centre of each face looks like a Pyraminx inside a Pyraminx! PYRA-CEPTION O:


In all honestly, this is now one of my favourite builds of all time, the wings and such holding the pieces in must be incredibly thin!

Great work, Timur (:


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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
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I love it very much, but when I saw the topic I had false hope :lol: this is elite, not royal :wink:

Congratz on a great puzzle though!

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
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This is Royal. The Elite Pyraminx is the same as the Professor Pyraminx. It goes Master, Elite (or Professor in this case), Royal, Imperial (I think), and so on.

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wonderful puzzle! I love Pyraminxs. (how do you make pyraminx plural?) turning is great.

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Great puzzle, it is amazing!
I can't believe how many layers have been added to the Pyraminx!


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You made a puzzle that actually has an order so high, there isn't even one in gelatinbrain's applet anymore.
It's awesome.

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This puzzle is unbelievable!!!
Meffert's will have to make mass-production!!
Congratulations Timur!!

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Nice puzzle! :D


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fbgrac wrote:
This puzzle is unbelievable!!! Meffert's will have to make mass-production!! Congratulations Timur!!
Contact Meffert now! He will want to put this into mass production. A great puzzle Timur.

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You made a puzzle that actually has an order so high, there isn't even one in gelatinbrain's applet anymore.
It's awesome.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing yesterday. 5.1.13 is the closest to this. I was trying to estimate a reasonable lower bound on the number of moves needed to solve it. My guess is about 150.

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 Post subject: Re: Timur's Royal Pyraminx
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I know it anit that easy, but I think Meffert's should mass produce Master Pyraminx first tho

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Great job! It turns amazing for such a complex puzzle.

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My mind = Blown Nuked :lol:
But seriously good job

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Timur, I am in love with all of your designs and this one is absolutely incredible. Great Job!

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Super! Very beautiful puzzle!


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Didn't Meffert say a couple of months ago that four new Pyraminxes would be coming out in 2011? Professor=1. Could this be another?


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Didn't Meffert say a couple of months ago that four new Pyraminxes would be coming out in 2011? Professor=1. Could this be another?


If I recall, there was some kind of problem with the stability of the other pyraminxes. I remember seeing a picture of models for a pillowed master pyraminx and a pillowed pyraminx, but I can't remember where.

Anyway, very nice puzzle Timur! The smoothness looks incredible! :D

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It was posted in another thread, but also if you look a few posts up you'll see the image there.

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Hmmm... how many orders could you in principle go to with a Releaux Tetrahedron?

Maybe 1-2 more. It is not easy to tell - at first you have to sketch all the cuts, cut it (even without mech), turn it by 60° and see how it looks. Anyway, a tetrahedron can be more pillowed than the Releaux, so in principle you can increase the number of layers on and on - and finally end up with a sphere that can bear anything.
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And hoping this whole family could have the same degree of pillowedness someday. Just wondering if you should have started with the Releaux Tetrahedron as the shape for these.

I'm not a fan of too much pillowedness - sometimes it's just conscious necessity. So I don't think I would make a Releaux Master or Professor Pyraminx just to match the shape of the next order puzzle.
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I love it very much, but when I saw the topic I had false hope :lol: this is elite, not royal :wink:

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This is Royal. The Elite Pyraminx is the same as the Professor Pyraminx. It goes Master, Elite (or Professor in this case), Royal, Imperial (I think), and so on.

I agree with Luke, Professor is the same as Elite. Imperial Pyraminx could have been the next after the Royal one, but this is the name of unpainted Jade Pyraminx already.
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I love Pyraminxs. (how do you make pyraminx plural?)

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Didn't Meffert say a couple of months ago that four new Pyraminxes would be coming out in 2011? Professor=1. Could this be another?

Definitely he did not mean Royal Pyraminx!

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