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 Post subject: SQ - 1 - PG (parallelogram) VIDEO
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:59 pm 
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Hello According to information provided this is a parallelepiped
even if I continue to have doubts;

http://www.vm-tim.de/eng/rb_prism.htm

Well, this is my latest puzzle modification the SQ-1-PP*
at the moment the puzzle needs to be signed with the name (SQ-1-PP)*

Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnZr146Aefc

here some photos, + photos in Marcketplace topic.

Best regads
Rafael

*SQ - 1 - PG


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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - RP (Rhombic prism)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:04 pm 
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This is very nice. I bet it looks really cool fully scrambled.

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - RP (Rhombic prism)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:30 pm 
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Not being picky, but isn't that a parallelogram, not a rhombus?

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - RP (Rhombic prism)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:43 pm 
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Hello Sebuver, I was just waiting for an objection,
according to what you can see in the link above,
it seems to me a photocopy of my puzzle,

and parallelogram, i' don't have find a similar shape, I d't think it's only a parallelogram,

if anyone finds more info regarding the form please write here, i don't not bite;

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - RP (Rhombic prism)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:51 pm 
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From mathematics point of view the shape is parallelogram, not rhombus.


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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - RP (Rhombic prism)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:12 am 
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iaroslavski wrote:
From mathematics point of view the shape is parallelogram, not rhombus.


Unfortunately the internet is not a source of knowledge checked and verified,
I also had serious doubts about it, but I am used to seeing this as a parallelepiped but what is the name of a rectangular parallelepiped
mashed with 2 angles acute and 2 obtuse?

$ 100,000 to whoever finds it :)

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - PP (parallelepiped) VIDEO
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:44 am 
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Its still a parallelogram, a rhombus has 4 equal sides where the 2 opposite sides are parallel, the diagonals are perpendicular bisectors and the opposite angles are congruent. I take geometry so this I know this like the back of my hand.

BTW, the parallelogram is a rectangle, a parallelogram is exactly what its name suggest, 2 pairs of parallel sides, it doesn't have to have right angles, also a rhombus is just a parallelogram with all congruent sides.

EDIT: A parallelepiped is essentially a parallelogram prism. The one you drew is basically a rectangular prism.
EDIT 2: Here's a diagram


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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - PP (parallelepiped) VIDEO
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They are right, this is a parallelogram.

Rafael, your picture shows a rectangular prism on the left and a parallelepiped prism on the right.

Cool puzzle by the way, very nice work.

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - PP (parallelepiped) VIDEO
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:01 am 
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QUOTE:Its still a parallelogram, ...


[quote="Adman234"]They are right, this is a parallelogram...

Hello, thanks for coming your help is essential,
with every passing day I realized that a rhombus could not be for the reasons listed above,
during my research I found unbelievable and misleading information,
and also I had already noticed the parallelogram, but i have think if parallelogram
have differents the parallelogram becomes parallelogram "something"

about rectangular parallelogram i have read this on Wikipedia:

all angles = 90 degrees all 6 faces rectangular

I must say that I'm tired of looking for sources on the Internet a good book will solve future problems ...

Last Question: ("I have porridge in the brain")

what it's called the solid in question?

Thank you both for all and for compliments.

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - PP (parallelepiped) VIDEO
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:20 pm 
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Rafael, I am sorry I mislead you.

This solid is a rhombic prism.
However, the opposite faces can be called parallelograms more specifically.

Parallelipiped is not what I thought it was.

So sorry I confused you :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - PP (parallelepiped) VIDEO
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This can easily be solved with some measurements. Rafael, can you give us the measurements of the top face (yellow), if all the sides are the same length, then it is indeed a rhombic prism, but if only the opposite sides are the same then it is a parallel prism (i think, but the main thing is that it is a prism with 2 parallel non-right parallelogram faces)

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - PP (parallelepiped) VIDEO
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MonkeyZ wrote:
This can easily be solved with some measurements. Rafael, can you give us the measurements of the top face (yellow), if all the sides are the same length, then it is indeed a rhombic prism, but if only the opposite sides are the same then it is a parallel prism (i think, but the main thing is that it is a prism with 2 parallel non-right parallelogram faces)


hello here the measurements
thank you for help
Rafael


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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - PP (parallelepiped) VIDEO
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Yup its a parallel Prism (?) I don't know what its called, but its not a rhombic prism; it's basically a prism with 2 non-rectangular, parallelogram faces.

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - PP (parallelepiped) VIDEO
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MonkeyZ wrote:
Yup its a parallel Prism (?) I don't know what its called, but its not a rhombic prism; it's basically a prism with 2 non-rectangular, parallelogram faces.


Hello, mhh ... I should like to call it right, so synthetic?
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A Rhombus is a tilted square. A Parallelogram is a tilted rectangle. With that logic, a rhombus IS a parallelogram and you don't need to go into all of those specifics- it's parallelogram either way.

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Rentlix wrote:
A Rhombus is a tilted square. A Parallelogram is a tilted rectangle. With that logic, a rhombus IS a parallelogram and you don't need to go into all of those specifics- it's parallelogram either way.

A parallelogram is any quadrilateral with two pairs of parallel sides, so squares, rectangles and rhombuses are all parallelograms. :D

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 Post subject: Re: SQ - 1 - PP (parallelepiped) VIDEO
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Thank you to all, for help and for your precious time dedicated;

finally, i have decided to change the name into parallelogram (Obviously if someone has something to object can forward their ideas on)
Today I will write the name of the puzzle; SQ - 1 - PG

regarding the sale of 'object, assessing proposals Purchase, so if anyone is interested can follow the instructions in the topic of Section marcketplace;

Best regards
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