Original post here:

http://bbs.mf8.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=69626

Pictures:





In the original post, it is said that:

It turns well, but not yet stickered. It has 12 physical axes, but behaves like there are 20 axes.

I believe it is similar to Dayan Gem Cube, which has 6 physical axes, but behaves like 12 axes. Solving this puzzle should be very easy.

Sweet We need a dinominx!

Awesome! I always wanted one of these. 0

EDIT: Does it say MF8 on EVERY center piece?

Hey, that actually looks pretty nice. It doesn't seem like it's very difficult to solve though.
As a puzzle I personally feel it's way too shallow-cut, but I'm just happy that this is available.
I don't know if I'll buy, really depends on how much it would cost...

Yay! But not yay at the same time. I've got too much to buy! Oh well, I guess I'll have to take more money from my car fund.

I really liked solving this on UMC and GB (when it was working ), so I'm really looking forward to this being released.

Alex

UMC?

That is awesome! Thanks mf8 for taking the initiative to make such a nice puzzle! When will this be available?


Chris

UMC = Ultimate Magic Cube. It's a downloadable cube simulator for windows.

It's pretty easy to solve, but still fun. I've wanted a physical dinominx for a while.



I think so. From memory, my teraminx says mf8 on every center. Once the sticker is applied, it isn't too noticable though.


Ultimate Magic Cube

-Mark-

I have no idea. I just saw this post on mf8 and nobody is talking about how soon it will be available. Daqing Bao said that this is going to be the first 20-axis puzzle that is mass produced. And I think he is right.

I can't wait to get this. It looks very fun.

Ditto. I like how edges can be flipped so it's harder than a dino cube.

Awesome, this is fantastic news! I find the "virtual" axes very interesting and seeing it applied to a dodecahedron is also interesting. Definetly going to buy once its available.

Does this mean we'll have the FTI that we've all been waiting for?! It turns on its corners which are the same as icosahedron faces.

On the "What puzzles should LanLan/QJ/YJ/etc produce?" thread, this one of the puzzles I suggested. Haha, being produced by MF8 is even better! This is one of the only puzzles I managed to solve on Gelatinbrain

is this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV44yiB-T-Q

Yes, but that was a custom made one.

Alex

I know



who is the inventor?

I think that Lukeharry was the first to show it here, although I'm not absolutely sure.

Alex

I have more pics.




'DDR' is man who upload the pics on bbs.maf8 site.
He also member of our korean cube site.
He has upload these pics on the site with same explanation.

Whoa, its a lot bigger than I thought, wouldn't a smaller version have been cheaper? Also, does anyone know the weight of this puzzle?

I love the size. It's been a while since I bought a puzzle that big.

I am starting to think that their definition of "physical axes" is different from the one that has been used on this forum. I can see no way of making this puzzle with 12 turning axes, just as I can see no way of making the Dayan Gem with only 6 axes. I can however believe that there is an error in translation, where what they really mean is "12 faces" with "20 turning axes".

Can someone please clarify?

-Ï€ (Eitan)

Here are pictures of the Dayan Gem internals. It has a 6 axis core.

If you disassemble a Dayan gem you will see a 6-armed core that resembles a 3x3x3 core, however the puzzle itself turns on its edges (12 axes of rotation) where no arms of the core reach. Looking at the core, one would assume it is a corner turning puzzle similar to Bandelow's Jewel, but somehow Dayan found a way to make it turn on its edges without the use of a rotating arm. The physical axes are the arms of the core you can see (6) and the virtual core is what allows the puzzle to turn the way it does (12).

The same thing can be applied to the DinoDodeca, the core is the same as a megaminx (12), but it turns on the corners (20) despite there being no "physical" axes.

Hey, guys. I have DDRs video too.
VDO

It turns well you can see.

"Raining men" Just scared the crap out of me. High volume alert.

I'm sorry but I didn't edit the vdo. DDR has it. Yep, it is too much high volume.

The 12 pentagonal face centres are fixed to a 12-armed core, and don't rotate. When you make a move, you are turning a vertex piece and 3 edxge pieces. That vertex piece is not physically connected to an axis, but it won't fall out because it has three feet that lie behind the adjacent fixed centres and vertex pieces.

The Gem core really does have 6 arms, each with a square pyramid fixed to the end (which is not visible on the outside except partway through a turn) which hold all the pieces in. I think it is a brilliantly elegant construction.

So technically we should say the Gem Cube has 6 arms instead of 6 axes, right? It's because an arm that doesn't rotate is not an axis. I should say in the original post by DDR in mf8, he did say "12 axes". It's not an mistranslation.

PLEASE DON'T BE COLOR MOLDED! I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE COLOR MOLDING!

Ah, of course! It's the same size as the gigaminx, so they adapted the gigaminx spider to a Gem-style puzzle.



Some of us do like it, you know.

Dear MF8,
I understand that many people like the color molding. Many others do not. Please, please, release your puzzles in black. Probably in white too. If the color molding has been selling well, release them in color AND in black! You'd single-handedly eliminate all the grumbling from those who don't like the color molding (myself included), and almost certainly sell a bunch of neat puzzles to those people...

Sincerely,
Lots of potential customers


Also, this is awesome, I'm excited to see it produced. Keeping my fingers crossed for a black one.

Agreed. 100%. The sooner the better. I cant believe how well it turns.

Chris

I don't think this one will be color-molded anyway, since the pieces don't seem to be split...

No it is the one below
To clarify: I have bought this one from Kuhrik.

Oh, clear. I like it!

I really hope it comes in black too.


Chris

Ya, I'm actually pretty fond of the black one in the first picture. I noticed it isn't quite as finished as the other black Mf8 puzzles. Is this just how the puzzle looks, or is this a prototype? I'm just wondering, because I'm worried that it's a prototype, and that it may not come in black.

Why the hell do the centerpieces require springs (they should be fixed)? And where the hell are the arms of the rotating corner pieces that should have a connection to the core?! And what in the world is this diagonal cut of the 12 armed spider for the center pieces??!!

Other than these question I must say: clear looks impressive. Still I only want to purchase black. Really cool though, thanks for the pictures.


EDIT: Thinking about it again and locking at the pictures while especially paying attention to the area of this circular cut where the pieces are taken out I think I get the idea. They just have a Gigaminx with modified centers, where the rotating corners are hooked under the centers rather than having a 20 armed spider and than the edgepieces are hooked between those corner pieces.
Kind of like a normal 3x3x3 mech. Whereas the 3x3x3 edges are the corners here and the 3x3x3 corners are the edges here.
That also explains the springs in the centers since they are the only connection to the core and need to move a bit for a working puzzle.
Now the cut of the core might just have some production or economical advantage.

Mystery solved. It was harder than solving the puzzle itself.

Nice, mech pictures! I think the transparent puzzle is very beautiful, it gives the impression of curved center pieces.

Is it just me, or is the first puzzle actually green?!

Yeah it does look kind of green. I really like the clear one, I hope that they offer it with the frame like stickers that Smaz uses.

P.S. Does any one know when any of these puzzles will be coming out. I still am waiting on the gigaminx before I even consider getting this one.

Hmm, I never saw it as a green puzzle. It's probably just the way that the lighting is hitting the gray-black puzzle, though.

I believe Luke Harry Designed this puzzle first, and I was the first person to build it. However his design was not perfect and ended up producing a loose puzzle, that I had to modify heavily to get it to stay together. I am really happy MF8 is producing this because before I sold it to Andreas, it was one of my favorite puzzle, but I was planning to make an improved version.

MF8 Please produce this in black!

-Kevin Uhrik

I tried one of these on ultimate magic cube, and it's not hard until you have two edges flipped and the rest solved... and then i closed the program and forgot to save

Thank you MF8 for listening to our comments, this puzzle looks extremely nice in black. I cannot wait until this becomes available, so i can compare it to my original. I definitely will be picking up one or two of these!

-Kevin Uhrik

I am not sure if anyone noticed, but the transparent puzzle images resemble
one of the simplest 3D projections of the... 120-cell!




Pantazis

It's here (pre-order)!

Chris