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TomZ
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Post subject: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:21 am |
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Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:47 am Location: near Utrecht, Netherlands
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I am ending the year with a bang, announcing my 3x3x3 Dino Cube!  It is based on the mechanism of my 3x3x3 Rainbow Cube. Some additional work was required to keep the tips surrounding the corners in place. The foot connecting these is a bit thin and naturally they're a bit squishy (just like on the SuperX). I plan on making a version with holes for stabilizing magnets. The puzzle measures 65mm on an edge. It's very stable and the rotation is fair, but is a bit tight. I think this is due to the print quality not having been as good as usual. But overall, it's a quite nice puzzle. Doing a Dino Cube turn:  Doing a Rubik's Cube turn:  The 3x3x3 Dino Cube, scrambled:  The 3x3x3 Dino Cube will be available from my puzzle shop later on. 3x3x3 Dino Cube videoRead more about the 3x3x3 Dino Cube on my website.
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Last edited by TomZ on Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
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RubixFreakGreg
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:30 am |
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Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:48 am Location: In Front Of My Teraminx (saying WTF?)
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Luke
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:31 am |
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Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:21 pm Location: Chichester, England
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Awesome Tom! I was thinking about buying a 'big' Shapeways puzzle, and I think I've just found it. Well done!
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JeongEC
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:55 am |
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:28 am Location: Incheon, Korea
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WHAT.A.PERFECT ....!!
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MonkeyZ
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:14 am |
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:59 pm Location: NJ
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I was expecting it to be squishy, but after seeing the video, I am astounded by its amazing quality and turning.
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RubixFreakGreg
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:21 am |
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Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:48 am Location: In Front Of My Teraminx (saying WTF?)
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The 3x3 edges must be SO easy to solve, since on both puzzles, they do 3-cycles  I just noticed something. If i'm not mistaken with your mech its shells from a FT cuboctahedron (or DRD) So the edges should be the centers of the mech (am I mistaken?) Thus wouldn't it be easier to solve if you start by solivng the edges, then the squishy pices, and then the centers? - Greg P.S: Isn't the scramble in the last picture U (YBR) U' and another dino turn on the down left corner?
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Synester
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:41 pm |
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Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:16 am Location: Maryland,USA
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Very Very Nice Tom, Does this mean that a much more stable Super X is possible as well?
Chris Hemerich
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gingervergo
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:27 pm |
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Synester wrote: Very Very Nice Tom, Does this mean that a much more stable Super X is possible as well? If you mean " a more stable super-x, without the use of magnets" I pretty confident the answer is no. In the video, around the 40 second mark, Tom shows the "squishiness" of the puzzle. The parts that he moves around are actually the same parts as on the super-x (imagine merging the 2 3x3 cuts on a turning axis into one cut to form a 2x2) They still move around a lot, and it would result in a puzzle very similar to the one drew shows off at the beginning of his videoThat being said, Great puzzle Tom. I'm sure v2 will be even better.
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mizzle576
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:30 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:39 pm Location: USA Michigan
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Beautiful. Well Done.
Chris
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Ender Delphiki
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:31 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:55 pm Location: Montana
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Puzzle of the year, right here. You have my votes!
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APJ
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:40 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:09 pm Location: My House
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Like you said, the turning isn't perfect, but it's still very good.  I'm sure that with magnets it will be much better! Alex
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Bram
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:47 pm |
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Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2003 9:11 am Location: Marin, CA
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It would be a simpler and less impressive build, but a combo 3x3x3/redi cube probably wouldn't have the squishiness issue.
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TomZ
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:03 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:47 am Location: near Utrecht, Netherlands
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Thomas
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:14 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:34 pm Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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bhearn
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:29 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:44 pm
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Very cool! TomZ wrote: Yes, I've already more-or-less done that in my 3x3x3 Rainbow Cube. I still say the name "3x3x3 Rainbow Cube" doesn't do it justice. It's not just an arbitrary combination of two other puzzles; it's a face-turning cuboctahedron. It fills a clear hole that was waiting to be filled. We finally have face-turning versions of all the Platonic solids; the cuboctahedron is a quasiregular solid (as well as an Archimedean solid). I'd have put it at the top of the list of most obvious missing twisty puzzles.
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ndgamer4life
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:01 pm |
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now that is a refreshing puzzle, been looking forward to that one for a long time.
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Sigurd
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:18 pm |
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Synester wrote: Very Very Nice Tom, Does this mean that a much more stable Super X is possible as well?
Chris Hemerich I think printing a superX in WSF would help quite a bit. Toms once said that his Dino Skewb would suffer greatly if it was mass produced without changing the design (to involve magnets or clicks). But it was ok, because of the texture of WSF. so I think yes, it is possible. But not because of this design. that aside, WOW! I am blown away Tom! great work! I will want to add this one to my collection of TomZ-puzzles in near future! 
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RubixFreakGreg
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:05 pm |
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bhearn wrote: Very cool! TomZ wrote: Yes, I've already more-or-less done that in my 3x3x3 Rainbow Cube. I still say the name "3x3x3 Rainbow Cube" doesn't do it justice. It's not just an arbitrary combination of two other puzzles; it's a face-turning cuboctahedron. It fills a clear hole that was waiting to be filled. We finally have face-turning versions of all the Platonic solids; the cuboctahedron is a quasiregular solid (as well as an Archimedean solid). I'd have put it at the top of the list of most obvious missing twisty puzzles. I have to disagree. The super X was alrerady the equivalent of a face turning cuboctahedron - Greg
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Kapusta
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:17 pm |
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RubixFreakGreg wrote: bhearn wrote: Very cool! TomZ wrote: Yes, I've already more-or-less done that in my 3x3x3 Rainbow Cube. I still say the name "3x3x3 Rainbow Cube" doesn't do it justice. It's not just an arbitrary combination of two other puzzles; it's a face-turning cuboctahedron. It fills a clear hole that was waiting to be filled. We finally have face-turning versions of all the Platonic solids; the cuboctahedron is a quasiregular solid (as well as an Archimedean solid). I'd have put it at the top of the list of most obvious missing twisty puzzles. I have to disagree. The super X was alrerady the equivalent of a face turning cuboctahedron - Greg Ya, but it wasn't the same shape. In the same manner, would you consider a regular 3x3 as an edge turning tetrahedron, or a vertex turning octahedron? EDIT: The Ultra X, on the other hand...
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bmenrigh
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:23 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:54 pm Location: San Jose, California
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RubixFreakGreg wrote: The 3x3 edges must be SO easy to solve, since on both puzzles, they do 3-cycles  Um, no. A turn of a Rubik's cube face is a 4-cycle in the edges which is an odd permutation. This puzzle has two pretty awful types of parity to it. The first is where the whole puzzle is solved but two edges are swapped. This happens for the same reason that void cube parity happens. The second is where the whole puzzle is solved but two 1/3rd corner pieces are swapped. This happens because the 1/3rd corners are in an odd permutation but the edges (by virtue of the void effect) are in an even permutation. The reason the centers on this puzzle act as void centers with respect to the edges is that they can be built from their 1/4th center constituents in either permutation just like on a 4x4x4 cube. I should add that if you want to play with this puzzle, it is Gelatinbrain's 3.4.5. Great job Tom, this is a beautiful puzzle.
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TomZ
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:26 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:47 am Location: near Utrecht, Netherlands
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bhearn
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:33 pm |
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RubixFreakGreg wrote: bhearn wrote: I still say the name "3x3x3 Rainbow Cube" doesn't do it justice. It's not just an arbitrary combination of two other puzzles; it's a face-turning cuboctahedron. It fills a clear hole that was waiting to be filled. We finally have face-turning versions of all the Platonic solids; the cuboctahedron is a quasiregular solid (as well as an Archimedean solid). I'd have put it at the top of the list of most obvious missing twisty puzzles. I have to disagree. The super X was alrerady the equivalent of a face turning cuboctahedron Well, sort of. Maybe it was the first puzzle with cuboctahedral twist. And I guess it could be shapemodded to a cuboctahedron. But it would be deep cut on the square faces. If we're thinking of natural analogs of Rubik's Cube, I'd say that Tom's cuboctahedron is it.
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Tony Fisher
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:43 pm |
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On your Shapeways shop it says this puzzle is unprintable. Is this an error on the site?
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Adman234
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:54 pm |
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Tony Fisher wrote: On your Shapeways shop it says this puzzle is unprintable. Is this an error on the site? TomZ wrote: The 3x3x3 Dino Cube will be available from my puzzle shop later on. I also cannot wait until this is available! But take your time perfecting the mechanism (I assume that is what you are doing?) Awesome puzzle! Adam
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Tony Fisher
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:04 pm |
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Adman234 wrote: Tony Fisher wrote: On your Shapeways shop it says this puzzle is unprintable. Is this an error on the site? TomZ wrote: The 3x3x3 Dino Cube will be available from my puzzle shop later on. Yes I know. I just assumed now was later on since it's in the shop. I hadn't looked before.
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Adman234
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Post subject: Re: TomZs 3x3x3 Dino Cube Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:45 pm |
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 Sorry Tony my bad. Can't wait to see this and the rainbow 3x3 available in your shop! I hope that you can get the magnets worked out Tom, It really is a cool puzzle. I like the idea of combining 2 puzzles into one, that you have shown very well with some other puzzles too. Next step: 24 Skewb Dino Helicopter 2x2 3x3 Rainbow Super-X Cube 
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