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TomZ
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Post subject: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:34 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:47 am Location: near Utrecht, Netherlands
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I proudly present my Master Brilic: Attachment:
File comment: Tom van der Zanden's Master Brilic
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My version uses a much different mechanism from Andrew's. Mine uses the most 'logical' one while he designed his around parts of a megaminx sphere he already had which resulted in a well working but somewhat strange mechanism. My mechanism is essentially just a gigaminx (all the gigaminx parts are in there) sphere with the inner edges floating over those just like on a regular pyraminx crystal. Because my design was unconstrained I managed to make it much smaller. Mine measures 34mm on an edge while Andrew's is 40mm(?). I think the size of mine is just right. Attachment:
File comment: Showing a turn
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File comment: "Scrambled"
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File comment: With some other dodecahedral puzzles. With the tiles added it is the same height as the pyraminx crystal.
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Rotation is great. There is very little resistance when turning but it will lock up if you don't align everything perfectly. The inner edges can slide around a bit, just like the edges of a pyraminx crystal. But I'm very pleased with it. While I can't compare it to the original master brilic (Frank, are you coming to the GCD? I'm planning to.) but judging from the video I think mine turns a bit better. Yes, the puzzle is tiled. I designed all of the parts to be as hollow as possible to save on the printing cost. All the faces which would normally have a sticker on them were nearly completely removed with just a small taper left in place to hold in the tiles. The tiles were printed in Shapeway's full colour sandstone which utilizes the ZCorp printers. The colours came out well, but quite different from what was on my computer screen. I'm fairly satisfied with the colours though, you can distinguish all of them well. I initially ordered all the tiles separated but they didn't want to process the 360 parts. I had to add a sprue connecting all the sets of tiles. Removing this sprue and gluing on all the tiles was painstaking work, but the end result is sweet. Here is a construction picture of the tiles being glued on: Attachment:
File comment: Adding the tiles. Picture shows a set of tiles as printed with the sprue, tiles deatached from the sprue and the holes in the puzzle into which the tiles were inserted.
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I won't be selling this on Shapeways. The print is simply too expensive, consists of many separate models to be ordered in separate materials and building the puzzle overall requires an awful lot of work. I might offer a copy of this puzzle on ebay sometime when I'll have the time to build another. I'm definitely not parting with mine right now. You're still quite welcome to buy some of my other creations in my Shapeways Shop. A video will be made later, I'm still waiting for the package containing my new HD webcam.
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Last edited by TomZ on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:16 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Luke
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:42 pm |
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Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:21 pm Location: Chichester, England
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Brilliant puzzle, I hope in the future I'll be able to own one. Would solving it be similar to a gigaminx? (Solve centers, pairs edges, solve like megaminx)
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APJ
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:04 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:09 pm Location: My House
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Wow! This looks amazing. I really love the tiles. Alex
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Konrad
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:08 pm |
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Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:07 am Location: Germany, Bavaria
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This looks incredibly impressing. I was bidding on Drew's version but stepped out at $ 1.500. I'm not sure what you wanted to say here: Quote: While I can't compare it to the original master brilic (Frank, are you coming to the GCD? I'm planning to.) but judging from the video I think it turns a bit better.
Which puzzle is "it" in the last sentence?
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Luke
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:14 pm |
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Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:21 pm Location: Chichester, England
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konsassen wrote: This looks incredibly impressing. I was bidding on Drew's version but stepped out at $ 1.500. I'm not sure what you wanted to say here: Quote: While I can't compare it to the original master brilic (Frank, are you coming to the GCD? I'm planning to.) but judging from the video I think it turns a bit better.
Which puzzle is "it" in the last sentence? I think he means his own. I agree, even though I haven't seen a video. The movement of Drew's seemed a bit stiff. But I'd have been happy with it! 
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TomZ
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:17 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:47 am Location: near Utrecht, Netherlands
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Door
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:35 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:45 am Location: New Zealand
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Great stuff! SEBUVER wrote: Would solving it be similar to a gigaminx? (Solve centers, pairs edges, solve like megaminx) You can play this here. The way I solved it was by centers first, then edges, then megaminx solve, but the steps are different to gigaminx. For example the centers cannot be solved the exact same way. -Mark- 
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Kickflip1993
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:38 pm |
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Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:15 am Location: Austria
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orgasmicly well done 
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RoboticFresca
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:43 pm |
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Joined: Wed May 13, 2009 8:22 pm Location: Pittsburgh☆彡
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Kickflip1993 wrote: orgasmicly well done  I agree, it's an amazing puzzle!
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MonkeyZ
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:07 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:59 pm Location: NJ
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Awesome puzzle, it's so incredible! 
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Kapusta
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:59 pm |
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:06 pm Location: Nowhere in particular.
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Beautiful addition to any minx family, I can't believe how good it looks with tiles!
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flambore
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:08 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:43 pm Location: right here
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Fatastic puzzle! The deep cuts are amazing.
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kastellorizo
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:43 am |
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Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:31 am Location: Greece, Australia, Thailand, Singapore.
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Sjoerd
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:11 am |
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Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:41 am Location: Spijkenisse, the Netherlands
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Wow Tom, you've become quite the builder! The size looks great, and I don't mind tiles, but I personally don't really like the colours, they're just too dull. But I would like to own one anyway! Keep up the good work!
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Pinoycuber27
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:41 am |
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 This is not just a Master, it looks Like God Brilic... The Most beautiful Master Brilic for me...Very Nice and Stunning work for this one Tomz..Keep it up 
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cubervietnam
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:40 am |
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Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:40 pm Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Viet Nam
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what a perfect puzzle! I agree with APJ, i love the tiles!
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PaulWozniak
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:50 am |
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Brilliant and beautiful. I love the look of the tiles as well. It suits the Meffert pyraminx crystal theme.
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pirsquared
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:59 am |
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Radu
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:21 am |
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:14 am Location: Bucharest, Romania
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Wow..that's so beautiful! Congrats. I would really love to see this puzzle live. Maybe at the German Cube Day.
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gingervergo
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:46 pm |
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this is a really great puzzle!
the question I have is should this really be considered a master brillic? to me this (and Drew's) should be considered a pyraminx crystal (brillic) plus a megaminx. wouldn't the master brillic have both cuts be deep enough to go past the midpoint of the edge? I am not trying to belittle this awesome awesome puzzle, its just a question I have.
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theVDude
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:12 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:57 pm Location: Pittsburgh
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The first time it was made it was called a master brillic. It's a higher order brillic as far as I can tell.
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Jeffery Mewtamer
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:22 pm |
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I kind of agree with the notion that this strikes me as more of a combination than a higher-order. Still, I cannot think of any better name for this puzzle or a better puzzle to go with the name Master Brillic.
Which raises the question: What would a Crystal-Starminx combination look like? or combining the Crystal with the puzzle that is intermediate between the Crystal and Starminx?
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URodent
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:36 pm |
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Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:59 pm Location: Blacksburg, VA
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Based on the naming scheme for the skewb, I would agree that a master brillic might not be completely technically correct, but that is what Drewseph chose to call this puzzle. As the creator, I think he should be free to interpret the cloudy void that is puzzle classification as he chooses.
People will never really agree on what anything should be named. Using metric prefixes to name the dodecahedrons is a little cute, but gets wierd for the even numbers since it was decided that a step up of two orders would be an increase of 10^3. However, no one wants to try to market a Shallow-Cut-5th-Order-Face-Turning-Dodecahedral-Combination-Puzzle.
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Frank Tiex
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Post subject: Re: TomZ's Master Brilic Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:40 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:17 am Location: Düsseldorf, Germany
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Hi Tom, my congrats to your nice work! I expected that sooner or later one or more Master Brilics would appear. Yes I'm planning to come to the GCD and of course I will have Drew's MB with me  Looking forward to meet you there! Frank
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