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 Post subject: Slice Cube (Updated)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:48 pm 
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Alokin's Slice Cube design in black. It shares some similarities with the Fisher Cube and is the same size as a regular 3x3. Video soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Nicely done. I was curious to see it built. It looks great.


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Look's great. I have been wanting to see this puzzle built. The insides could be polished up a bit though.

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Ok, ok. Here's the deal. I was so eager to post this puzzle (and it was very, very late when I was finishing it up) I fudged a little on the sticker job (the angles are a bit off) and the insides haven't been sanded. This puzzle turns very well, it just needs a little touching up. I think that this is going to be one of my last 3D projects. After making that Dino Cube, I really like to use sheet plastic, so I think my next few will be from that. I will clean this puzzle up soon and auction it off in a month or so. Anyway, thanks for the comments! I'll post a few more pictures when I clean it up some more. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Really hot puzzle, it reminds me of a Fisher cube mixed with an Axis cube.


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Really hot puzzle, it reminds me of a Fisher cube mixed with an Axis cube.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I often am), but isn't this half way between a Fisher cube and an Axis cube? (I.e. it is a 45 degree rotation away from a Fisher cube and a 45 degree rotation away from an Axis cube.)


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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It looks great. I'll look out for the video and auction.

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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chris the cynic wrote:
tattooed wrote:
Really hot puzzle, it reminds me of a Fisher cube mixed with an Axis cube.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I often am), but isn't this half way between a Fisher cube and an Axis cube? (I.e. it is a 45 degree rotation away from a Fisher cube and a 45 degree rotation away from an Axis cube.)


I think it's a "doubly Fishered cube" (if I can even use Tony's name as a verb/adjective). My reasoning goes as follows:

A Fisher cube is one where the "internal 3x3x3" is rotated 45 degrees around the vertical axis. This is a cube where the "internal Fisher cube" is rotated 45 degrees around the horizontal axis. It's equivalent to making a Fisher cube, turning it on it's side and "Fishering" that. If it were "Fishered" a third time, you would have an Axis cube. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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And by your reasoning, chris is right and it is 45˚ off from both.

What if you took an axis cube and "fishered" that again?

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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The axis cube is turned 45 degrees in each of the three directions. Moving one direction another 45 degrees would simply put it back to being a slice cube.


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Danny Devitt wrote:
What if you took an axis cube and "fishered" that again?

You would have the first ever shape mod of the 3x3x3x3 cube

That's not quite accurate (or at all accurate, as the case may be) but the fact is that you simply don't have another axis to turn it on. Hence the need to jump to 4-d. The more down to earth answer has already been stated:
JasperJ wrote:
The axis cube is turned 45 degrees in each of the three directions. Moving one direction another 45 degrees would simply put it back to being a slice cube.


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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:)
It's always a super good feeling to see one of your design / cading realised :D

Ok, here is how it's done :P

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The White square, this is like the "perimeter" of the cube.
On the cube, it would gave that it is these lines:

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Note: I've made that one really fast just to show the line, so proportions are bad and not as the real one :P

I hope this clarify :)

Cheers, and bravo again Superman! :D
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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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EDIT! this is in fact NOT a greenhills cube. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Doubleyou, it is actually very close to Greenhill's Cube. Here's a picture for reference:

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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It looks like an axis fisher cube.

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Earlier in the thread:

Fractangle wrote:
chris the cynic wrote:
tattooed wrote:
Really hot puzzle, it reminds me of a Fisher cube mixed with an Axis cube.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I often am), but isn't this half way between a Fisher cube and an Axis cube? (I.e. it is a 45 degree rotation away from a Fisher cube and a 45 degree rotation away from an Axis cube.)


I think it's a "doubly Fishered cube" (if I can even use Tony's name as a verb/adjective). My reasoning goes as follows:

A Fisher cube is one where the "internal 3x3x3" is rotated 45 degrees around the vertical axis. This is a cube where the "internal Fisher cube" is rotated 45 degrees around the horizontal axis. It's equivalent to making a Fisher cube, turning it on it's side and "Fishering" that. If it were "Fishered" a third time, you would have an Axis cube. :)


By that logic, technically it is an axis Fisher cube, but that's the hard way. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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In words, this is a 3x3x3, and I used the Tony Fisher's method twice

It isn't an Axis + Fisher

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Alokin wrote:
It isn't an Axis + Fisher


Well, technically it is. I know you didn't make it this way, but if you did, I'm guessing you'd get the same result. :wink:

Here's how I look at it:

A Fisher cube is a 45 degree "internal rotation" along either the X, Y, or Z axis.

An Axis cube is a 45 degree "internal rotation" along the longest diagonal of the cube, which is equivalent to "Fishering" the cube along all 3 axes.

If you make an Axis cube, then you have an <X,Y,X> rotation of <45,45,45>. "Fishering" this once (in any direction) will either add or subtract 45 degrees to one of those rotation numbers. Adding 45 degrees would make 90, but since 90 degrees doesn't make a difference (think about re-Fishering a Fisher cube in the same direction, you get a 3x3x3 again), you get something like <45,45,0>. You'd get the same result by Fishering a normal cube twice.

Regardless of the specifics of how it's constructed, it's a nice puzzle. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Well, technically it is. I know you didn't make it this way, but if you did, I'm guessing you'd get the same result.

Nope

The proof:
I've just done it for fun to show that this is not that.

Slice Cube:

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And, a Fisher cube + Axis cube:

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The Slice Cube have 8 masters, and that one, 14 or maybe 1 or 2 more



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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Oh, I think I see where I went wrong. :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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a note on mechanism rotations for these puzzles:

The Fisher Cube is rotated 45° about a face centered axis.
The Slice Cube is rotated 90° about an edge centered axis. (or 45° about 2 face centered axes)
The Axis Cube is rotated 60° about a corner centered axis.

I hope this explanation helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Puzzlemaster42 wrote:
The Axis Cube is rotated 60° about a corner centered axis.


Oh! That explains why my "sketch" of one in Rhinoceros 3d looked weird; I rotated it 45°! :oops:

Well, I guess it's a day full of mistakes for me. :P

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Yep, that's it Adam :)

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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I feel bad about bumping this, but I wanted to show some better pictures. I recently found an excellent way to take pictures and this was an experiment to see how well it worked. I know I haven't fixed the sticker angles, but I promise I'll work on that before I sell it. Anyway, enjoy.

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I promise not to bump this any more. :D Scout's honor.


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Yes, fantastic photos. Found macro mode?


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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I can't believe I never commented on this puzzle before. Awesome job Superman. :) And I agree with Bounb, the pictures look really great.


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Actually, I got this and it works very well. I just realized that it would probably work better if I put a white piece of paper under the cube, but I'll do that next time. Also, I'm sure I could get it a tad bit brighter and it would look better. I just got it so I need to work with it a little more.


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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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Instead of starting a new thread, I decided to just do an update. This is the slice cube done in white. It will be on eBay shortly, so be ready! Sticker angles have been fixed and the insides were really cleaned up on this one. It is very clean looking and turns very smoothly. I will make a video sometime for the auction, and I will post it in this thread. I used unique colors because they were the colors that I used on my white speedcube (which got butchered in order to make this puzzle). I hope you enjoy it!

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube
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The scrambled pic scares me! :shock: !
Looks like you're going to make a killing on eBay!

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated)
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will we see a video of this?

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated)
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I TOTALY NEED TO MAKE THIS MOD. made from a 3x3 right? but i still dont understand which piece is which and how its made and extended, any tutorials?

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated)
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Neix wrote:
I TOTALY NEED TO MAKE THIS MOD. made from a 3x3 right? but i still dont understand which piece is which and how its made and extended, any tutorials?


I second this motion.
All I would need is somthing like this Image

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated)
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Shua wrote:
Neix wrote:
I TOTALY NEED TO MAKE THIS MOD. made from a 3x3 right? but i still dont understand which piece is which and how its made and extended, any tutorials?


I second this motion.
All I would need is somthing like this Image


I think you shouldnt truncate the tip of the Hexagonal Di-Pyramid for making this o_o
But i also dont know how to make one of these, lol

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 Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated)
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I think that he meant that he would need a picture like that one in order to make the slice cube, not that exact picture.


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