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Josh B
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Post subject: Slice Cube (Updated) Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:48 pm |
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Last edited by Josh B on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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flambore
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:00 pm |
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Nicely done. I was curious to see it built. It looks great.
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ihatefrauwahlgren
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:05 pm |
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Look's great. I have been wanting to see this puzzle built. The insides could be polished up a bit though.
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Josh B
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:39 pm |
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Ok, ok. Here's the deal. I was so eager to post this puzzle (and it was very, very late when I was finishing it up) I fudged a little on the sticker job (the angles are a bit off) and the insides haven't been sanded. This puzzle turns very well, it just needs a little touching up. I think that this is going to be one of my last 3D projects. After making that Dino Cube, I really like to use sheet plastic, so I think my next few will be from that. I will clean this puzzle up soon and auction it off in a month or so. Anyway, thanks for the comments! I'll post a few more pictures when I clean it up some more. 
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Derek Tolley
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:19 am |
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Really hot puzzle, it reminds me of a Fisher cube mixed with an Axis cube.
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chris the cynic
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:02 am |
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tattooed wrote: Really hot puzzle, it reminds me of a Fisher cube mixed with an Axis cube. Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I often am), but isn't this half way between a Fisher cube and an Axis cube? (I.e. it is a 45 degree rotation away from a Fisher cube and a 45 degree rotation away from an Axis cube.)
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MarkSS
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:11 pm |
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It looks great. I'll look out for the video and auction.
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Fractangle
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:30 pm |
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chris the cynic wrote: tattooed wrote: Really hot puzzle, it reminds me of a Fisher cube mixed with an Axis cube. Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I often am), but isn't this half way between a Fisher cube and an Axis cube? (I.e. it is a 45 degree rotation away from a Fisher cube and a 45 degree rotation away from an Axis cube.) I think it's a "doubly Fishered cube" (if I can even use Tony's name as a verb/adjective). My reasoning goes as follows: A Fisher cube is one where the "internal 3x3x3" is rotated 45 degrees around the vertical axis. This is a cube where the "internal Fisher cube" is rotated 45 degrees around the horizontal axis. It's equivalent to making a Fisher cube, turning it on it's side and "Fishering" that. If it were "Fishered" a third time, you would have an Axis cube. 
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Danny Devitt
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:01 pm |
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And by your reasoning, chris is right and it is 45˚ off from both.
What if you took an axis cube and "fishered" that again?
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JasperJ
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:18 pm |
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The axis cube is turned 45 degrees in each of the three directions. Moving one direction another 45 degrees would simply put it back to being a slice cube.
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chris the cynic
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:33 pm |
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Danny Devitt wrote: What if you took an axis cube and "fishered" that again? You would have the first ever shape mod of the 3x3x3x3 cube That's not quite accurate (or at all accurate, as the case may be) but the fact is that you simply don't have another axis to turn it on. Hence the need to jump to 4-d. The more down to earth answer has already been stated: JasperJ wrote: The axis cube is turned 45 degrees in each of the three directions. Moving one direction another 45 degrees would simply put it back to being a slice cube.
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Alokin
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:05 pm |
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 It's always a super good feeling to see one of your design / cading realised  Ok, here is how it's done   The White square, this is like the "perimeter" of the cube. On the cube, it would gave that it is these lines:  Note: I've made that one really fast just to show the line, so proportions are bad and not as the real one  I hope this clarify  Cheers, and bravo again Superman!  ,Nikola
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Sigurd
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:23 pm |
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Josh B
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:27 pm |
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Doubleyou, it is actually very close to Greenhill's Cube. Here's a picture for reference: 
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Sigurd
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:33 pm |
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PotatoSpades22095
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:17 pm |
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Fractangle
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:33 am |
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Earlier in the thread: Fractangle wrote: chris the cynic wrote: tattooed wrote: Really hot puzzle, it reminds me of a Fisher cube mixed with an Axis cube. Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I often am), but isn't this half way between a Fisher cube and an Axis cube? (I.e. it is a 45 degree rotation away from a Fisher cube and a 45 degree rotation away from an Axis cube.) I think it's a "doubly Fishered cube" (if I can even use Tony's name as a verb/adjective). My reasoning goes as follows: A Fisher cube is one where the "internal 3x3x3" is rotated 45 degrees around the vertical axis. This is a cube where the "internal Fisher cube" is rotated 45 degrees around the horizontal axis. It's equivalent to making a Fisher cube, turning it on it's side and "Fishering" that. If it were "Fishered" a third time, you would have an Axis cube.  By that logic, technically it is an axis Fisher cube, but that's the hard way. 
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Alokin
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:40 am |
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In words, this is a 3x3x3, and I used the Tony Fisher's method twice It isn't an Axis + Fisher Cheers ,Nikola 
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Fractangle
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:57 am |
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Alokin wrote: It isn't an Axis + Fisher Well, technically it is. I know you didn't make it this way, but if you did, I'm guessing you'd get the same result. Here's how I look at it: A Fisher cube is a 45 degree "internal rotation" along either the X, Y, or Z axis. An Axis cube is a 45 degree "internal rotation" along the longest diagonal of the cube, which is equivalent to "Fishering" the cube along all 3 axes. If you make an Axis cube, then you have an <X,Y,X> rotation of <45,45,45>. "Fishering" this once (in any direction) will either add or subtract 45 degrees to one of those rotation numbers. Adding 45 degrees would make 90, but since 90 degrees doesn't make a difference (think about re-Fishering a Fisher cube in the same direction, you get a 3x3x3 again), you get something like <45,45,0>. You'd get the same result by Fishering a normal cube twice. Regardless of the specifics of how it's constructed, it's a nice puzzle. 
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Alokin
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:20 pm |
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Quote: Well, technically it is. I know you didn't make it this way, but if you did, I'm guessing you'd get the same result. Nope The proof: I've just done it for fun to show that this is not that. Slice Cube:  And, a Fisher cube + Axis cube:  The Slice Cube have 8 masters, and that one, 14 or maybe 1 or 2 more Cheers  ,Nikola
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Fractangle
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:08 pm |
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Oh, I think I see where I went wrong. 
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:16 pm |
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a note on mechanism rotations for these puzzles:
The Fisher Cube is rotated 45° about a face centered axis. The Slice Cube is rotated 90° about an edge centered axis. (or 45° about 2 face centered axes) The Axis Cube is rotated 60° about a corner centered axis.
I hope this explanation helps.
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Fractangle
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:41 pm |
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Puzzlemaster42 wrote: The Axis Cube is rotated 60° about a corner centered axis. Oh! That explains why my "sketch" of one in Rhinoceros 3d looked weird; I rotated it 45°! Well, I guess it's a day full of mistakes for me. 
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Alokin
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:23 pm |
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Josh B
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:13 pm |
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Bounb
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:41 pm |
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Yes, fantastic photos. Found macro mode?
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aliengrey
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:14 pm |
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I can't believe I never commented on this puzzle before. Awesome job Superman.  And I agree with Bounb, the pictures look really great.
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Josh B
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:58 pm |
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Actually, I got this and it works very well. I just realized that it would probably work better if I put a white piece of paper under the cube, but I'll do that next time. Also, I'm sure I could get it a tad bit brighter and it would look better. I just got it so I need to work with it a little more.
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Josh B
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:58 pm |
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Shua
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:40 am |
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The scrambled pic scares me!  ! Looks like you're going to make a killing on eBay!
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PotatoSpades22095
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated) Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:50 pm |
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Neix
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated) Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:39 pm |
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I TOTALY NEED TO MAKE THIS MOD. made from a 3x3 right? but i still dont understand which piece is which and how its made and extended, any tutorials?
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Shua
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated) Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:41 pm |
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Neix wrote: I TOTALY NEED TO MAKE THIS MOD. made from a 3x3 right? but i still dont understand which piece is which and how its made and extended, any tutorials? I second this motion. All I would need is somthing like this 
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metaknight2550
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated) Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:54 am |
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Shua wrote: Neix wrote: I TOTALY NEED TO MAKE THIS MOD. made from a 3x3 right? but i still dont understand which piece is which and how its made and extended, any tutorials? I second this motion. All I would need is somthing like this  I think you shouldnt truncate the tip of the Hexagonal Di-Pyramid for making this o_o But i also dont know how to make one of these, lol
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Josh B
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Post subject: Re: Slice Cube (Updated) Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:03 am |
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I think that he meant that he would need a picture like that one in order to make the slice cube, not that exact picture.
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