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 Post subject: Master Octahedron
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:00 am 
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Well, after stumbling upon Aleh's Master Octahedron... I just couldn't get it out of my head. I needed to have one. To my knowledge, this is the second master octahedron in existence. I have absolutely know idea though how similar my mechanism is to Aleh's mechanism.

It turns surprisingly well, it never locks up or pops, and can even cut corners a little bit :) This puzzle is a lot of fun to play with. I am also very happy with the size I decided on. Each cubie is a little bit smaller then that of a regular octahedron, but it makes for a very comfortable puzzle to hold.

Keep your eyes on the marketplace and / or your email inbox for the wait list info ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Scott Bedard wrote:
Keep your eyes on the marketplace and / or your email inbox for the wait list info ;)
I can't wait to get one of these!


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Quite impressive!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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wow thats awesome!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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:shock: :shock:

fantastic !!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Congratulations, Scott!


Volitar Prime wrote:
Scott Bedard wrote:
Keep your eyes on the marketplace and / or your email inbox for the wait list info ;)
I can't wait to get one of these!

I haven't seen you on the waiting list :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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I've fallen in love one more time.

When I thought I had forgotten Aleh's, which stole my hearth, now you put it back to me!

Man, really impresive. I'm speechless and typing-less....

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Georges wrote:
Volitar Prime wrote:
Scott Bedard wrote:
Keep your eyes on the marketplace and / or your email inbox for the wait list info ;)
I can't wait to get one of these!

I haven't seen you on the waiting list :-)
I'm on the waiting list now :)


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:39 am 
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Wow Scott!
You didi it!
It's so awesome! :o
I didn't think anyone else would do it!
Did you get any help from anywhere or did you design it all from scratch?
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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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oh God! Scott your site just keep getting better and better!

just WOW!

I wanna know the mech too! did you use the 4x4x4 approach as Aleh or what?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Wow, that's epic. :P Amazing job Scott, wish I could afford one right now.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow...
Awesome... that's all I have to say.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Fantastic puzzle!


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Wow! Amazing puzzle, fantastic Scott


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Wow!! That is my favorite of all of your puzzles.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Vadim wrote:
Wow Scott!
You didi it!
It's so awesome! :o
I didn't think anyone else would do it!
Did you get any help from anywhere or did you design it all from scratch?
Vadim


A long long time ago when I first started to design this puzzle, Tyler helped me get a rough idea of the general mechanism, as well as helping me figure out how to mold one of the cubies. Drew also helped in figuring out how I should mold that piece. And I'm not sure what you mean about the from scratch part, but this puzzle is not a modification of any other existing puzzle like the original octahedron. It was 3D printed then mold / cast.

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oh God! Scott your site just keep getting better and better!

just WOW!

I wanna know the mech too! did you use the 4x4x4 approach as Aleh or what?


Uhm, I wouldn't say it's a 4x4 at the heart of this. Really the base of this puzzle is more similar to a 3x3. Although I can see where people might want to say 4x4 because the edges are 2x wider then they would be on a 3x3. I'll take mech pictures soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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sweet cube, very nice job. keep making more

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Scott Bedard wrote:
Doubleyou wrote:
I wanna know the mech too! did you use the 4x4x4 approach as Aleh or what?


Uhm, I wouldn't say it's a 4x4 at the heart of this. Really the base of this puzzle is more similar to a 3x3. Although I can see where people might want to say 4x4 because the edges are 2x wider then they would be on a 3x3. I'll take mech pictures soon.

The ordinary Magic Octahedron is similar to a 3x3, so I think there's an intuitive-but-misleading expectation that a Master Octahedron would be based on a 4x4. A quick look at this picture shows it's not just bumped up to a 4x4.

Upon close examination it's clear this puzzle has more in common with the 3x3 than the original Magic Octahedron did. It has all the parts that correspond to the 26 cubies on a 3x3, whereas an ordinary Magic Octahedron retains only 18 parts from a 3x3 (schematically speaking). Both Octahedron variants add 6 trivial tips, not present on the 3x3, and the Master appears to add 24 additional moving parts.

I'd sure like to see more of these built!


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Here are some mech pics and scrambled shots for you guys :)


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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man I wish I was as good at CAD as you, anyways looks amazing :D

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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I'm actually pretty second-rate as far as CAD goes. If you're going to aim high, try to be as good as Tyler or Adam or the.drizzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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I am sooo impressed. Great job!

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Scott Bedard wrote:
I'm actually pretty second-rate as far as CAD goes. If you're going to aim high, try to be as good as Tyler or Adam or the.drizzle.


well if designing that is second rate then I wanna be second rate :mrgreen: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Scott Bedard wrote:
I'm actually pretty second-rate as far as CAD goes. If you're going to aim high, try to be as good as Tyler or Adam or the.drizzle.


well if designing that is second rate then I wanna be second rate :mrgreen: :lol:

Me too :D

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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you crazy you!

how did you manage to pull this off so perfectly? If I recall correctly, Aleh DID use a 4x4x4 for his one. but he also transformed one puzzle into another, where you created one from scratch!

I simply dont understand how some of you guys without hestitation can just sign up for all of these massive expensive puzzles! Man I am jalous

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Oh I soooo want one but I need to wait till next March to be sure I still have a job. Is it safe to assume this will still be available then?

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Heh, just for fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onAF10mVEvM

It took me much longer then it would probably take any of you, but that's because i never solve my puzzles. I just make them ;) Also pairing edges kind of stumped me for a while once i got to the last 3. Oh well, I never claimed to be good at solving puzzles.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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I imagine most people wouldn't know their times on this one as most people don't have them. :) Then again, there are a lot of people who play with virtual versions of such puzzles.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Ah so it's like a 3x3 mech with pyraminx mech extensions? That's really cool... it's a beastly puzzle..


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Beautiful work.

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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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I know this is kind of a bump, but I thought you guys might like to see the first ever white plastic master octahedron in comparison with the black plastic ones. And just for fun, that last picture is todays outgoing mail :) The side by side octahedrons belong to Hendrik Haak and Lee Tutt.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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Beautiful puzzles. I have grown to have such a liking to the white puzzles. I don't even like casting in black anymore.
These are really cool puzzles.


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 Post subject: Re: Master Octahedron
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wow!

the white master octahedron looks amazing, so do the rest of your puzzles.

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