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 Post subject: Mixup Octahedron
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:37 pm 
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In my quest to create a Mixup series I proudly present the Mixup Octahedron. Even though it has an identical mechanism to my Mini Mixup Cube, the octahedron shape exposes the 24 hidden pieces. In addition the center pieces, now corners, must be oriented. This creates a super unique solving experience. One of the weirdest things is having all the edges and corners solved except for one that needs to be rotated 90 degrees. I'll need help figuring out how that's possible :lol:. The additional 24 "wings" bring the real challenge though. They have an almost bandaged feeling to them. I can only position 8 of them around their respective edges without relocating already solved parts. So as you can tell, I can't re-film the video to improve the video and scramble quality because I can’t solve it.

As it is the puzzle functions perfectly except for no reverse corner cutting. This was what caused my problems in the video. At the moment I do not plan to sell this puzzle through Shapeways because of the complex assembly and necessary modification of the internal Eastsheen 2x2x2. That said I will sell assembled, dyed, and stickered Mixup Octahedrons for only $52 plus shipping! If you are interested please send me a pm or email me at "Vizion Puzzles.yahoo.com", just remove the space. Because I'm not selling this puzzle on Shapeways I'm including my email so you can contact me if you don't have a Twisty Puzzles account.

Watch the VIDEO!

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In the video the puzzle looks way smaller than it is so this photo is a size comparison with my Mini Mixup Cube.
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I hope you enjoyed :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:03 pm 
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Great puzzle! I can't wait for the video and the puzzle looks deceivingly simple. :twisted:

PS. Can't wait for a certain mixup puzzle to arrive :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:32 pm 
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so, is this about the size of a rubik's 3x3 then? Is the mini mixup cube about the size of a keychain 3x3? I'm having some trouble with size perception here...

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:20 pm 
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Great Puzzle!
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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:19 pm 
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This photo better shows the size. From left to right is smallest to largest.
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Thank you for the great responses. I'm still not being able to upload the video :x

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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Yay! Well done Mike. I will hopefully by one of these by the end of the summer.

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:40 am 
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Brillinat!!! Plato would surely be proud of you!

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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Wow thats awesome :D i probably also would buy one :D

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:43 am 
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Very nice indeed! :D :D
I'll most certainly buy one, when I have seen your promised video.
I like your Mini Mixup Cube very much and it seems that the Octahedron provides a new challenge.

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:13 am 
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do we get to choose black/white, and do we get to select color scheme?

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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rubikcollector123 wrote:
do we get to choose black/white, and do we get to select color scheme?
Obviously we can get black
PuzzleMaster6262 wrote:
... That said I will sell assembled, dyed, and stickered Mixup Octahedrons for only $52 plus shipping! ...
What else could "dyed" mean? The colours should be different for a white and a black body, though. I would like the six standard colours (white on a black puzzle; never black on black!!!) and two additional colours, ordered similar as on other octahedra.

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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great puzzle! congratulations!

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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I'll do any color for both dye and stickers, as long as the stores make it. Sorry, no glow in the dark.

Also, and finaly, the VIDEO! Again, in two years when I finish solving it I'll make a better quality video.

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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Ugh, I am drooling from the overwhelming awesomeness :P

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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That truly lives up to the mane 'mixup'!

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:57 pm 
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So close! :x
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One edge group needs to be rotated and two corners need to be swapped. Using my 5th step both parities could be solved but when I tried this it caused the 2nd and 3rd parities to form. So far I have 4 parities with my solving method. These are my solving stages.

1. Position corners at axes. Same as Mixup Cube.
2. Rotate wings to solve for shape. Odd sets of wings neeeding to rotate is parity :x
3. Rotate edges to solve for shape. Same as Mixup Cube.
4. Position corners relative to each other. Same as Mixup Cube.
5. Solve wings relative to edges. Odd sets of wings needing to be solved is parity :x Causes either two wings or two corners needing to be swapped.
6. Solve like 3x3x3. Same as Mixup Cube. Parity exists if one corner is rotated 90 degrees, two edges or two faces are swapped as a result.
7. Parity can then exist if one edge set needs to be rotated, everything else can be solved :evil:

Also may someone please calculate how many states both this puzzle and the Mixup Cube can reach? I'm really loving the relationship these two puzzles have with each other and I wonder if it continues.

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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It just occurred to me that this puzzle would be perfect for a deltoidal icositetrahedron shape... that way the 2x2 corners would need to be oriented too. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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Sjoerd wrote:
That truly lives up to the mane 'mixup'!
The word "mane" has confused me quite a bit (you know, English is not my mother tongue :) ) Probably, it is just a typo and you have meant "name"? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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You are right to laugh, I think he was making a joke about `mixup` :wink: .

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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Jared wrote:
It just occurred to me that this puzzle would be perfect for a deltoidal icositetrahedron shape... that way the 2x2 corners would need to be oriented too. :)

Their rotation could simply be solved last like on a normal 3x3x3.


I have some good and bad news :?

The GOOD news is I've solved the puzzle! I got lucky and didn't have the last two parities.

The BAD news is the mail strike in Canada will not allow me to get stickers from Dr-Sticker for (hopefully) only a few weeks. In the meantime I'll assemble puzzles and work on my new puzzle website.

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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You came to this forum a year ago as an annoying kid, very proud of yourself for having designed something that didn't really work. You pissed off a lot of important people around here (mainly Drew, but Eric and I weren't too happy either).

PuzzleMaster, I can truly say that I am very impressed. I am happy to see that you have learned. Not only are you better at making puzzles now, but you are a bit more humble about it.

I'd be interested in meeting you and trying out this puzzle when I get back to Colorado, if you're willing to take a trip up to Boulder some weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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PuzzleMaster6262 wrote:
Their rotation could simply be solved last like on a normal 3x3x3.


But because of the shape, it would be easy to distinguish between the two different mixup parts - one set would all have corners. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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You came to this forum a year ago as an annoying kid, very proud of yourself for having designed something that didn't really work. You pissed off a lot of important people around here (mainly Drew, but Eric and I weren't too happy either).

PuzzleMaster, I can truly say that I am very impressed. I am happy to see that you have learned. Not only are you better at making puzzles now, but you are a bit more humble about it.

I'd be interested in meeting you and trying out this puzzle when I get back to Colorado, if you're willing to take a trip up to Boulder some weekend.

-Eitan

When I joined this forum a year ago I knew of about 20 different puzzles. I still have a printout from that time of simple puzzle transformations that amazed me. My (mane) problem was I had no idea how amazing the puzzle community was and is. A "super amazing" puzzle that couldn't turn was super amazing compared to my limited view and limited understanding. Now my collection has grown to 43 puzzles and I've spent a year learning from others. I've learned to not make "super amazing" puzzles, just puzzles I like and hope others do too.

Apart from the Puzzle Addictions store that was around for a few months, I've learned everything I know from the internet. Along with now trying to go to competitions and the like, It would be great to meet up with a fellow puzzler and continue my growth. I'm sure Rentlix and Eye2Eye would also be interested. We should set up a Colorado meeting for the 4 of us when you get back. I'll even bring my "super amazing" 48 cube to show how flawed the design was. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Mixup Octahedron
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This is a cool puzzle. I think it’s really cool you were able to reveal the hidden pieces. And yes I would love to go to that meet up. Though I think I’m the only one with no customs to show.


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