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 Post subject: The CopterMinx By S&M
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:47 am 
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Hello,

Im proud to show you our new puzzle - The Copterminx.

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This CopterMinx is a combination of two puzzles; A megaminx and a Helicopter Dodecahedron. It requires just a little bit of fudging to work the way it does. There are only 12 screw/springs holding the puzzle together, however, there are 42 axis of rotation. There are 182 separate pieces not including caps and the core. The helicopter portion of the puzzle requires no extra pieces.

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An alternate way to design this puzzle is in layers. You would have a megaminx in the inside and built around that would be a helicopter dodecahedron attached to the edges. However in this one I managed to put them both in the same layer. It is 40 mm to an edge and is quite a nice size, bigger than the Pyraminx Crysytal, but it feels really nice in your hands.

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Turning is excellent on the puzzle and honestly turns better than some of my factory made puzzles. It can cut corners slightly as it does have springs, however not by much. The puzzle is finger trickable, however it is a little bit squishy so I don’t recommend it. The helicopter turns do catch occasionally, they simply need to be aligned properly. it also jumbles as a normal helicopter dodecahedron.

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This particular version is unique and there will only be one more sold (in a black body version) At a later time (Depends on the demand). however, a very similar puzzle may or may not be offered as a kit from shapeways. It will be the same internal puzzle, however it will look and solve differently. the CopterMinx is stickered with Twelve different Colors - White (which now I changed to Black), Silver, Yellow, Light Yellow, Orange, Pink, Purple, Blue, Sky Blue, Green, Light Green and Red. Stickers were machine cut by Dr. Sticker. This puzzle was also a cooperative project between Sharon Avidor and Matthew Ray (Muffet).

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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another master puzzle.
I really like puzzle that combination.

I have some question.
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The piece in the red box, It is looks really weak. It isn't unstable?

Wonderful job Sharon and Muffet!

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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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very nice, i could go for one of those.

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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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you call that jumbling? I call this a massacre!
This is AWESOME.

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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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Would it be possible to upload the picture to this site? Whatever site you are linking to for them is being blocked for me :(


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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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OMG! Beautiful and impossible to solve I think. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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JeongEC wrote:
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another master puzzle.
I really like puzzle that combination.

I have some question.
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The piece in the red box, It is looks really weak. It isn't unstable?

Wonderful job Sharon and Muffet!

-JEC-



I was waiting for that one, yes it looks quite thin, and yes it is, however it has proved to be very strong and I don't see any issues coming toward it. It was as large a stem that could be made, and still have room for the puzzle to hold together. I assure you it is stable.


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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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This thing is totally wicked!!!!

Oh, mass-produce, mass-produce! :lol:

Good job guys, this is another puzzle designing masterpiece.


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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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in a solved state, it's a beautiful puzzle. I do like it.
When it's all jumbled up, it does look like an S & M device. I love it! :lol:

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oh my goodness... guys I am blown away!!! Congratulations on brigning another paster piece to life!

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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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Amazing!! Congratulations for this briliant puzzle.
This kind of puzzle must be mass produced! :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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Sadly because of the piece mentioned above by JeongEC this puzzle has absolutely no chance at being massed produced. While that piece works just fine with WS&F material, it wouldn't work I dont think with the usual ABS plastic.


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Fantastic! :D I would really like to have one of these. :D

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Wow. Just wow. I think you've won puzzle of the month already.

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COOL! I love Dodecahedra!


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This is great! I love all of your puzzles.

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Absolutely beautiful. Your puzzles are amazing. Well done. :D

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A true work of art. Congratulations. :D

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This is sick, I love it D:

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Well done, gentlemen. Great looking puzzle.


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Fantastic puzzle indeed! As soon as I saw it I thought of the shell buildup (Megaminx, then heli dodeca) but it seems that you have found an even simpler method! Congrats! :D

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Wow, the puzzle's beautiful! The face patterns reminds me of an explosion (:
The mechanism is ingenious, reminds me of how the edges of the Dayan Gem are held in by the centers. Have you tried solving it yet?

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 Post subject: Re: The CopterMinx By S&M
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Nice puzzle! Beautiful in fact! May I ask how this project, along with the last one, is a co-operative effort? Do you both create the files? I want to have a co-operative effort partner! Any takers?


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This is seriously one of the best turning 3-D puzzles I have seen and the fact that the puzzle itself is so amazing just makes it all better. Great job :D

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Nice puzzle! Beautiful in fact! May I ask how this project, along with the last one, is a co-operative effort? Do you both create the files? I want to have a co-operative effort partner! Any takers?


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Basically Sharon comes up with all of the ideas, and we talk about them, see what we can actually make, what other people haven't thought of, etc.

I create the puzzle to the best of my ability, keeping Sharon updated all the way with pictures and info.

Sharon then has the files printed, and they are sent to me.

I assemble, and sticker the puzzle, take a few pictures, and videos, then I ship it off to sharon for him to enjoy. :D

However due to my schedule you will probably see less from me for a while, and if you do it means it was probably sent right to Sharon and he assembled and stickered it and whatnot.

I must say it was the luckiest thing ever to come into contact with Sharon, I had no funds to produce any really unique puzzles, but I wanted to. It just works out great.


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Wow nice! Fantastic in fact.
It seems co-op puzzle building yields great results :D

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Muffet wrote:
JeongEC wrote:
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another master puzzle.
I really like puzzle that combination.

I have some question.
Attachment:
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The piece in the red box, It is looks really weak. It isn't unstable?

Wonderful job Sharon and Muffet!

-JEC-



I was waiting for that one, yes it looks quite thin, and yes it is, however it has proved to be very strong and I don't see any issues coming toward it. It was as large a stem that could be made, and still have room for the puzzle to hold together. I assure you it is stable.


Great!
It is really cool 8-)

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the outcome of this co-operation is really great :!:

keep on going 8-)

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Regarding the Dayan Gem, which is also held together by a "dummy" six axis, which provides support for the Heli-edges: It appears that the same idea concept could easily be applied to the Dayan Gem. If so, perhaps the edge-centers would be the only part needing modification. They could be split into three parts each. Someone could design a Shapeways "kit" to transform the edges, carrying the concept folward as you have with the Megaminx/ Helicopter Dodecahedron. :mrgreen:

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I've just been going through the last few pages (in reverse order) of new puzzles to update my video site. The best was definitely the last (that's this one BTW)!

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Regarding the Dayan Gem, which is also held together by a "dummy" six axis, which provides support for the Heli-edges: It appears that the same idea concept could easily be applied to the Dayan Gem. If so, perhaps the edge-centers would be the only part needing modification. They could be split into three parts each. Someone could design a Shapeways "kit" to transform the edges, carrying the concept folward as you have with the Megaminx/ Helicopter Dodecahedron. :mrgreen:

The Dayan gem 2 was already announced a while ago.

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stardust4ever wrote:
Regarding the Dayan Gem, which is also held together by a "dummy" six axis, which provides support for the Heli-edges: It appears that the same idea concept could easily be applied to the Dayan Gem. If so, perhaps the edge-centers would be the only part needing modification. They could be split into three parts each. Someone could design a Shapeways "kit" to transform the edges, carrying the concept folward as you have with the Megaminx/ Helicopter Dodecahedron. :mrgreen:

The Dayan gem 2 was already announced a while ago.

Great puzzle :mrgreen:

Gem 2 still has a six-axis core, which makes more turns possible. If using a 12-axis core, the same mechanism as Gem 1 may work out the copterminx(the non-curvy version without centers). Maybe as the Gem 2 a both face-turning and edge-turning minx could be made.


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Fantastic work! You are a great team! And it turns so well!

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Wow! I don't think that could turn any better, it's super smooth!
I look forward to seeing more of your collaborations!

-Mark- :)

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Ooooo pretty :D


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Wow. Those patterns are cool. It's also nice to see the puzzle with black stickers. I really wish you guys could upload this and the Icosacopter to Shapeways, they're too awesome just for one person to have. :)

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Wow. Those patterns are cool. It's also nice to see the puzzle with black stickers. I really wish you guys could upload this and the Icosacopter to Shapeways, they're too awesome just for one person to have. :)



We are working on something for shapeways similar to this puzzle. Having some difficulties though. :?


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