Cubic Jumble Trap

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:39 am 
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I would like to present my first original design, the Cubic Jumble Trap.

As the name suggests it is a cubic transformation of a jumble trap/face turning tetragonal trapezahedron. It is (should be) 45mm to an edge and weighs about 49 grams. I have provided images below.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:04 am 
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That's an impressive first post :) Congratulations for the great design.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:24 am 
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WOW :!: :!: :!:

Almost unbelievable for a first post/ first design!

Congratulations :)

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That looks very nice! The scramble looks intimidating to me, in a good way :)

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:51 pm 
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Konrad wrote:Almost unbelievable for a first post/ first design!
Nice! But unbelievable is right. Tom, your profile says you've been a member of the forums for less then a month. Are you a long time lurker? Or did you just get a new username? Even if this is your first original design it is clear you've been involved with twisty puzzles for more then a month.

Can I request a video?

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:11 pm 
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Great idea, and very nicely executed. Well done!

I'll also second the request for a video, please.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:28 pm 
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I have been collecting puzzles for about 2 years now, and I've been a lurker for about 6 months prior to becoming a member.

And I shall attempt to record a video tomorrow.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:27 pm 
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I really like that you went with curved cuts. If you just do a direct cubic transform of the Jumble Trap with its planar cuts you get something of a mess:
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But using conical cuts with the cone's apex at the origin your puzzle pops out:
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The curves are quite nice in this case.

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I'm not sure if anyone's asked this yet, but how did you make that? Is it SLS printed, or FDM printed, or modded or what? I'm really curious! It look great by the way :D

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Designed in Onshape (using the tools made by Diogo Sousa) and then SLS printed (i.materialise)

And thank you for all of the positive comments :)

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:14 am 
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Beautiful first puzzle :D

I'd love to see a "windmill" version that has the same pattern on top and bottom face.

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5284973 wrote:I'd love to see a "windmill" version that has the same pattern on top and bottom face.
Is this sarcasm? Maybe I'm missing something but the windmill version of this cube would be created by simply taking this cube and turning it upside down.

Light goes off as I was about to say that has the same patterns on the top and bottom as its the same cube. Your pattern is singular... so I'm guessing you mean to rotate the cube by 22.5 degrees instead of 45 degrees before returning it to the cubic shape. Correct?

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5284973 wrote:I'd love to see a "windmill" version that has the same pattern on top and bottom face.
Is this sarcasm? Maybe I'm missing something but the windmill version of this cube would be created by simply taking this cube and turning it upside down.

Light goes off as I was about to say that has the same patterns on the top and bottom as its the same cube. Your pattern is singular... so I'm guessing you mean to rotate the cube by 22.5 degrees instead of 45 degrees before returning it to the cubic shape. Correct?

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Yep, I meant so that the puzzle would be fully symmetrical. Also, I think 22.5deg (maybe not exactly...) is windmilling, since a 45deg operation would be more analogous to a Fisher cube and would, indeed, return the puzzle to an identical shape just flipped upside down.

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5284973 wrote:Yep, I meant so that the puzzle would be fully symmetrical. Also, I think 22.5deg (maybe not exactly...) is windmilling, since a 45deg operation would be more analogous to a Fisher cube and would, indeed, return the puzzle to an identical shape just flipped upside down.
This could also be achieved by "twisting" the cube shape, but only twisting it 45 degrees instead of the usual 90 degrees.

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I have made a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3dWQX2nzwk

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Welcome to the active part of the forum! Impressive start with such a wonderful puzzle!

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:39 pm 
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Very nice design.
Reminds me a bit of the SPAX cube by RCpongo, specifically about the conical cuts.
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Awesome puzzle! Beautiful look. Definitely interested in seeing more of it, or having one eventually, haha!

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Speaking of which, I have now made it available on my i.materialise shop https://i.materialise.com/shop/designer/tom-koster

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Tom Koster wrote:Speaking of which, I have now made it available on my i.materialise shop https://i.materialise.com/shop/designer/tom-koster

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Oh, all three parts combined are only like 45 euros? :shock: That's cheap!! Might pick one up soon in that case. :)

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Tom Koster wrote:Speaking of which, I have now made it available on my i.materialise shop https://i.materialise.com/shop/designer/tom-koster
Nice!!! 2 questions:

(1) Why split this across 3 models? This isn't that big of a puzzle in size or piece count so everything should have easily fit in one model. Was it cheaper this way?

(2) I saw this comment "The core is snap fit, so the puzzle is a little loose and locky." Any particular reason for going with a snap fit core? M3 screws are easily available and allow one to tension the puzzle as they see fit. Is there some advantage of using a snap fit core that I'm not seeing other then maybe the cost of the screws themselves?

Genuinely curious... not trying to be critical,
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To answer the first question, it was slightly cheaper to when I split it across 3 parts.

And the second, the centre pieces that snap into the core are too small to accommodate m3 screws, and I wanted to keep it as small as possible in order to reduce the cost of it in case it didn't work.

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I wasn't too happy with the turning of the original, so I have created a new version which is larger (57mm to an edge) and uses a screw based mechanism as opposed to a snap fit one.

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